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  1. ABM

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    Gee, I guess I don't know squat about all this. Consequently, Palin certainly isn't as relevant as I had thought.
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    When you're speaking off the top of your head, as she seems to be doing lately, it makes sense that she wants to touch on all three topics, and likely in that order.

    I've done a bit of public speaking. When I first started doing it, I'd write out my speeches and read from them, but felt like I wasn't talking to the crowd but reading from my speech. Then I wrote out my talking points and only looked at them from time to time while speaking from what I know. It worked a lot better the second way.
     
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    Fox News has terrific ratings for Cable News. It's not surprising that a lot of people tune out politics when it isn't close to an important election. USA Network shows reruns of network programs, and those are quite entertaining (like House), as well as some quality original shows.

    It's hardly irrelevant that Fox dominates Cable News because their viewers are politically aware and interested even when it isn't close to an important election. Contrast with Air America.
     
  4. barfo

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    Denny, did you write your talking points on your hand? Do you think maybe your audience should have laughed at you if you had?

    I've done a bit of public speaking as recently as Friday. My palms are clean.

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  5. Denny Crane

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    I might have written things on my hands if I didn't want my speech to look like I memorized it or was reading off cue cards or index cards.
     
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    I've wondered what a Romney/Huckabee ticket might yield. Huckabee would probably be Mr. Vice Prez. However, that certainly would be a major upgrade to the current #2.

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    As we can tell from actual elections (Democrats get the majority of votes), media ratings (Fox leads) are not in proportion to what people really believe.

    Air America had a lot harder time getting conservative industry to pay them for ads than Fox does. But if the people voted for networks in ballots, it would be different. The "votes" that TV networks get are either from corporate leaders making advertising decisions, or from the minority of voters who have lots of spare time to act like kids and watch a lot of TV. The working class is too busy focused upon survival to watch any news channel.
     
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    You might have? Did you, or didn't you?

    And do you think that reading it off your hand is superior to memorizing it or reading off cue cards or index cards?

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    I really don't understand why Nailin Palin is still a topic of news... who cares... she lost and now she's just trying to make a buck. I can't blame her. She has no shot at ever being considered a legitimate candidate again, so why do Liberals continue to harp away on her? Honestly, I have zero faith that the Republicans will be able to muster a decent candidate because of the party stance on gay marriage, abortion, and things like stem cell research. If there was ever a chance for a third party, now would be it. Obama is losing popularity (there's actually kids with anti-Obama booths at PSU) and the Republicans have completely lost site of what the party used to stand for.
     
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    Gotta defend you and Palin on this one bro. I speak a lot too and will often bring a notecard up with a few key phrases. But she shouldn't have written it on her had. Amateurish.

    PowerPoints are usually nothing more than on-screen crib sheets actually.
     
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    LOL I did that during my high school graduation when I had to speak in front of everyone. I thanked people and wrote them on my palm to remember.

    Good times. I was high as shit, but I still did well.
     
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    Yeah, I wrote things on my hand more than once. I didn't have all the entourage around me like a public figure like Palin does, and I could easily see index cards getting lost or coffee spilled on them, someone wanting to see them and messing them up, etc.
     
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    I've used powerpoint presentations as well, but I find myself literally reading what's on them and it's frustrating because I know my audience can just as easily read them. On the other hand, when I've given presentations over the phone, they're quite handy.
     
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    i hope u're not serious. palin didnt elaborate on those three words into some complex policy positions, no, she just mentioned them and hoped they would score points with that partisan crowd of like minded morons. if she cant remember them- she's not fit to be president of the pta.

    and here's fox news' demographic- old, stupid and with a lot time on their hands. most ppl are busying working and paying taxes- these teabaggers are busy sauntering their fat arses across d.c and squandering tax payer dollars in the process. any teabagger outing is just an excuse for them to get off their fat arses and away from the tv set. i applaud them for getting some exercise because at the end it might save the american health care system millions in dealing with their morbidly obese carcases.

    also, i have an idea for teabaggers: maybe in their next "for profit" event- they should collect a fund for the next municipality they invade, so that respective city could pay for the all the police officers and cleanup crews needed to accommodate their mass protest. at the end- its all about taxes and fiscal restraint, right?
     
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    I think its likely that she knew the questions that were going to be asked of her in advance.

    Also, she made a joke about Obama's teleprompter use during this engagement. With the notes on her hand.
     
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    The point I was making, the VALID point I was making, is that both are women, both were VP candidates on the losing tickets, both made hay with speeches for a year or two after the election and just as Ferarro faded into obscurity, so will Palin. And, like Ferarro, Palin is a bit of a whack job- and yes I'm more than old enough to remember her- I just don't worship her.
     
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    There are different kinds of intelligence. There's raw intellect, which you see in academics. They can understand the most complex and nuanced of ideas. Of course, most of them can't tie their shoes.

    You then have those who are socially intelligent. Those people generally end up in sales positions because they can read people and know just what to say to connect.

    Finally, you then have common sense intelligence. Those people generally become small business owners or leaders in the private sector. They may not be able to tell you the theory behind how things work, but they can see trends and capitalize on them. They don't get lost in the details and can see things in black and white. They boil things down to their simplest issues and tackle problems in a logical way.

    You have the rare politician who has all three, like Bill Clinton. Ronald Reagan had the second and the third. Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama are primarily the first. Sarah Palin is like a really lazy Ronald Reagan. She possesses the second for a wide swath of the country and has the third in spades. Her problem is that she hasn't worked hard enough to learn the basics. Once she does, she'll likely arrive at a common sense solution that will frustrate the intellectuals. Until then, she's really not suited to hold national office (just like our current President).
     
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    there is nothing wrong with using a teleprompter/index cards/etc... when making a speech. But mocking someone else for doing so while secretly using your own crutch makes you a hypocrite.

    having your cheat sheet scribbled on your hand just makes the hypocrisy funny in a pathetic sort of way
    why do people cause huge traffic backups to rubberneck a minor fender bender on the side of the road? You're the guy who passes the accident and thinks... I just lost an hour of my life because of this!?!

    I'm sure that there are still some people who think that she has Presidential potential, but most people who still gawk at her just want to be up on water cooler subjects... I'm sure this group contains a decent percentage of voters from every political bent

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    I agree with your analysis completely, except I don't see much of the third in Palin, whereas you see it in spades. What are the things she's done that indicate to you that she has common sense?

    barfo
     

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