OT: Anthony Tolliver

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    Biedrins strikes me as like Chris Andersen. Active, rebounds, blocks shots, but easy to push around, not necessarily a post defender and not really a center. He's sort of the anti-David Lee - both stuff the stat sheet, Lee on offense, Biedrins on defense, but neither really affects the game all that much.

    I want Camby.

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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    He is putting up some good #'s. He is still scrub. I could put up decent #'s in that system though. It's amazing the type of points you can score when you aren't called on to play any defense whatsoever!
     
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    Looks to me like the Clippers went on vacation early.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Biedrins is much better offensively than Chris Andersen. He has a 0.604 career FG% and led the league in both FG% (0.626) and ORtg (127) as a 21-year old. He has some decent low post moves and a nice shooting touch. He just doesn't get a lot of touches in GSW's guard oriented offense. He's played his whole career with guys like Baron Davis, Stephen Jackson, Monta Ellis and now Steph Curry that dominate the ball and take a lot of shots. Last year, he averaged 11.9 PPG in spite of only getting 8.6 shots a game.

    No thanks. Camby peaked four years ago. He's 35, which makes him 12 years older than Biedrins. Biedrins if better now offensively, nearly as good defensively and on the boards and is still years away from reaching his peak.

    Camby would be a "win now" solution for a team that has a chance to win it all this year. Biedrins (or David Lee) would help this season, but could also be a part of this team's long term success.

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    You repeatedly complained about people being 'rude'.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I'd love for Portland to acquire Biedrins. I've never really thought about him for Portland since I always assumed Golden State considered him a cornerstone, but he's been tremendously productive from a very young age. Having both him and Oden would be an embarrassment of riches at center.

    If his abnormally poor season this year and being in Nelson's doghouse makes him more available, I hope Pritchard explores a possible trade for him.
     
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    OK. I think I did it twice, but thanks for caring. Do you talk about basketball, or do you just tell people what they posted?

    As a segue ... is there an ignore function on this site?
     
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    Who is this fool?!? You come on here crackin' on people left and right. What's your issue son? Support the team and quit hating on everybody.
     
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    Huh? Who the fuck are you? I'm talking hoops, and I have people like you chasing me down. What's your MO, other than posting polls about yourself? Are newbies here supposed to just take this shit? If so, you've got the wrong guy.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Polls? Oh the one I created back in September as a joke cause hoop season hadn't started yet. Lightin' up Francis. Sad thing is I know Brian Grant and he is a great guy. You need to change your name with all that anger you're spewin'!
     
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    That's cool man. I know Brian as well. I'm not sure how I'm a "fool", but let's move on.
     
  12. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yes, yes they are. Didn't you get the memo? Check your inbox. All newbies are supposed to get the "thank you sir, may I have another" guidelines when they register with this site.

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    Ha! Not exactly a tea and crumpet crowd here, eh?
     
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    Gotta break the new guy in, that's all!
     
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    I watched some of that game... the W's were absolutely killing the Clips throughout. I don't know this as a fact, but I'd speculate that they kept him out initially because he picked up some fouls and then because he's been dinged up and they didn't really need him.

    As far as Nellie "jerking him around" this year, I don't really see it. Here's his game log

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/biedran01/gamelog/2010/

    dude is often limited by fouls averaging an Oden-esk 5.5 per 36 MPG. Having heard Nellie rave about him many times on local sports talk, I'm not getting my hopes up that he'll be traded to a Western rival

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    There's more than one source claiming the Warriors are shopping Biedrins to cut costs.

    The first is today's blog from Ken Berger of CBS Sports:

    "The Warriors continue to peddle Andris Biedrins (four years and $36 million left) to achieve cost-savings"

    Trading Biedrins to cut costs has also been mentioned in recent articles in he San Jose Mercury News, including today's column by Tim Kawakami. This cost cutting measure is linked to rumors that Chris Cohan is trying to sell the team and dumping Biedrins' and Corey Magette's long term deals would make the team more attractive to a buyer.

    Of course, these are just rumors, but it does seem Biedrins may be available for expiring contracts, young cheap talent and/or draft picks.

    I still like my proposed deal of Blake, Outlaw (both expiring) and Rudy (cheap, would fit well in Nellie's system) for Biedrins. If that's not enough, I'd throw in Patty Mills and/or our lottery protected 2010 1st round pick.

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