Merged: OT: Mavs in the Caron/Haywood sweepstakes now

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Accurate enough to support the "KP is not a good in-season GM" argument. Very similar to the "Nate is not a good in-game coach" argument. Both have merit.
     
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    Okay what was he available for? I know it was Batum and we had to take a bad contract in return, which of course, I would have done because I like proven players. I will admit the one thing that scares me about Wallace is his injury history, but he such a great player, that it is worth the gamble to me.
     
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    Re: OT: Dallas close to a deal

    I can see myself vacillating between the those two poles if I continue to post here. The attack stuff is so invigorating for now, though! I feel like a school boy again! Into the battle I march unafraid, unaware of what the coming days, weeks, and months will bring me.
     
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    Re: OT: Dallas close to a deal

    Is Gooden a good man and/or help defender? Because that is what I am mostly looking for and I know Haywood is good at that. Howard may be younger, but I am not fond with guys with attitude problems and I know Pritchard is not fond of them either.
     
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    Re: OT: Dallas close to a deal

    Oh, I still find some posters here to be rude. I'm cool with that, and I've adjusted my own style of play. Treat others as they treat you, or something like that. A defensive position, of course, but a necessity for a noob. I'm what you'd call a good in-game coach, I guess.
     
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    Deal. :devilwink:
     
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    deal is close per teh twitter.
     
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    Re: OT: Dallas close to a deal

    Gooden's not-so-hot on defense, and he certainly can't defend the post very well.

    In the West, Haywood may actually be a plus in terms of making the playoffs, but a liability in a 7 game series. He isn't at all mobile, and I feel the poor guy would just get abused and exposed by the quicker, generally smaller 4/5s masquerading as 5s in the West. There-in lies the dilemma. Does Haywood guarantee a play-off berth? If so, who do the Blazers give up that might help them create mismatches in the playoffs?
     
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    Niceeeee. Whatever helps you sleep better at night. Glad to see your opinions are far superior than mine.
     
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    Re: OT: Dallas close to a deal

    Haven't watched him a ton, so I couldn't say, but I do know that he's a better rebounder than Haywood, and that he has a better defensive rating (104 to Haywood's 106). Haywood is admittedly more of a "true" center than Gooden, but I think I prefer the idea of getting a PF/C to fill in for now but back up both spots in the future once Oden's healthy again.
     
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    Re: OT: Dallas close to a deal

    Maybe my lack of knowledge on Gooden has definitely shown and maybe he would be a good get for us, but I do not want Howard near this team tbh. Just isn't all that to me, and like I said, not fond of his attitude problem.
     
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    Re: OT: Dallas close to a deal

    Perhaps you should watch him more. He's a helluva player. A slight headcase, but the guy can ball. That said, we have Batum.
     
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    I heard on the radio that Butler to Dallas is a done deal.
     
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    Re: OT: Dallas close to a deal

    I wouldn't be thrilled with Howard either, but primarily because I think it would take Batum to get him, and I'd have to watch Nic abuse the Blazers for the next decade or so.
     
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    It is cause WOJ said SOOOO ok??? haha
     
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    Re: OT: Dallas close to a deal

    I have seen him a couple of times. He is a hell of a player when he wants to be. He plays lazy, and I don't want those type of players, thanks.
     
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    Remember when the Mavs traded for Kidd, and they floundered? It's not always smart to trade for a player.
     
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    Mark Stein just tweeted that the deal is Josh Howard, Drew Gooden for Bulter/Haywood/Stevenson.

    A ballsie move for sure. Dallas just got better I think.

    At least they just got better then Portland this year and potentially next season even if everyone comes back healthy.
     
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    They traded for Kidd a year after they got smoked in the first round of the playoffs so I don't think they started floundering so much as kept floundering.


    And it's not like Devin Harris has lit the world on fire for the Nets.
     
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    Meh...I think people are way over valuing Butler here and Brendan "oh hey, it's my contract year, maybe this will be the first year I don't suck and I'll be able to trick someone into signing me to a bigger contract than my talent warrants" Haywood.
     
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