No Victor Claver Next Year

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  1. drexlersdad

    drexlersdad SABAS

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    the spurs do have a need in the frontcourt, i think its a slam dunk personally.

    there is always a slight chance that a player can decide to stay there, fran vasquez is the only i can think of but his wife made/makes him haha.
     
  2. drexlersdad

    drexlersdad SABAS

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    if we can use/play him, he is here in a heartbeat.
     
  3. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    At 6'11" 255 lbs. he'd provide insurance at center.
     
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    drexlersdad SABAS

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    yeah if we dont resign camby he might be a nice option
     
  5. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Gasol was a 2nd round pick (no rookie scale limit on salary) and the Grizz were under the cap. That's why Gasol is making 3x as much as Rudy. If Gasol had been a 1st round pick, he very well may have re-signed in Europe and been locked up for another 3 - 4 years with a big buy out clause in his contract.

    Claver isn't a 2nd round pick and the Blazers won't be under the cap any time soon. He has already signed for another year in Europe and may be locked up longer term by the time the Blazers can even offer him anything more than rookie scale.

    BNM
     
  6. drexlersdad

    drexlersdad SABAS

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    being under the cap is irrelevant considering his starting salary was well below the full MLE. as the acb mvp. why he didnt stay in spain and live in a free house with a hot chicks room and a fully functioning magical sex hole is anyones guess.

    again with the fear mongering. marc might have signed a big deal(even though he didnt) so that means claver might too! there just isnt a precident yet, there might be in the future but as of now....no.

    i believe i am being the realist and you are being negative about it. you believe i am being positive about it and you are the realist. im cool with that. good show.
     
  7. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I said it the day we drafted Claver - other than possibly summer league, we will never see him playing in a Portland Trail Blazer jersey.

    Time may prove me wrong - or it may prove me right. We'll just have to wait and see.

    Regardless, we COULD have had Dejuan Blair playing for us THIS year - and addressing a need (back-up power forward). IMHO, that makes the Claver pick a bad pick. Feel free to disagree. Time may prove you right - or not.

    BNM
     
  8. MickZagger

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    Can't get them all right. I'll take Pritchards track record and forgive him for letting Blair slip by. I can see Blair being one of those guys having a career cut short by injury.
     
  9. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    So, would you rather have a player with a potentially short, but productive career, or one who may never play here, or if he does not until at least 4 years after he's drafted?

    BNM
     
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    Cunningham is putting up a better PER than Casspi, plus Dante plays defense.
     
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    i love it when 2nd round picks do good, it gives 29 other teams fans something to whine about. boo hoo. :lol: i guess we can stop whining about landry being a second rounder now that blair is everyones favorite "i told you so".

    you agree with me and the rest of the world that blair is more valuable to an nba team than claver this year, well done.

    why you feel so strongly about victor claver never playing in the nba ill never know, maybe you are a euro scout. i applaud your certainty either way, i just dont see a need for it i guess.
     
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    Exactly. Cunningham passes the eyeball test, has a higher PER, and lower D-rating. Most importantly he fills a need that Casspi didn't.
     
  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Nope, that would be Paul Millsap.

    Thanks.

    Thanks, again.

    BNM
     
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    even blair didnt know he would be good in the nba, he signed a 4 year contract for less than the #30 pick gets, he fucked himself HARD.
     
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    oh crap if we are going that far back i nominate monta ellis!
     
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    posters can lament all they want on those two, I'm pretty happy with Pendergraph and Dante. The main concern I had about Blair going into the draft was that he couldn't defend anyone at all and every time I've seen him play thats been the case. Casspi looks pretty nice but I wouldn't place him above JP and DC... mostly he's just had more opportunity. The grass is pretty green on this side of the fence too

    STOMP
     
  17. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Ellis goes back even further. He was drafted in 2005. Millsap was 2006.

    I was specifically comparing the Millsap wiff to the Blair wiff due to the similarity.

    Both times, we had a clear need for a back-up power forward going into the draft. Both times, I identified the players I would most like to get to address that need (Millsap and Blair). In 2006, I wanted to take Millsap at 30 or 31. And, in 2009 I wanted Blair enough I would have traded up to 14 to get him. Both times, Pritchard passed on these players in the first round and took, tall, thin. young Europeans to stash over seas and hope that they may someday pann out AND play for our team. He also passed on both players TWO additional times in the second round. And both times these players went to western conference rivals that we are fighting with for play-off seeding.

    So, are you happy with the contributions Joel Freeland has made to our team, or would you have rather have had Paul Millsap and the contributions he's been making for going on four years? I know my choice - and I feel the same way about Claver vs. Blair - instant contribution vs. waiting, waiting, waiting, someday, maybe....

    BNM
     
  18. andalusian

    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    I pretty much agree. Blair has been fantastic rebounding and scoring the ball - but his defense looks pretty suspect to me as well. I would say that Dante and Blair are maybe as valuable as each other - given Dante's fantastic defense - and Dante does not have Blair's injury worries.

    I think that Pendy, also, has a much better defensive ceiling than Blair.

    Anyway, it does not matter much - these are the guys we got - and they are pretty good - so, good for us.
     
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    I like Blair, but I'm happy with Cunningham and Pendergraph. Those guys are very good gets in the 2nd round.
     

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