Sam Bowie was 28 when he was traded to New Jersey. I'm willing to give Oden, who just turned 22, a few more years before I give up on him all together. And, I'm sure if SAC did make such a trade, they'd protect the lottery pick. Probably top 3 protected, at the very least top 1 protected. BNM
You think SAC would make this trade without making the pick top 3 protected? We'd need them to NOT protect the pic AND defy the odds in the lottery. No thanks. BNM
No offense (really), just want to check if I remember right: were you the poster who was saying (when Oden had MF) that we needed to draft DeAndre Jordan because Oden's done?
Before you go and trade Oden to any willing team with a draft pick remember if he were to come out this year he'd easily be the #1 pick over every other prospect. He'd be a senior in college right now. Averaged 16pts/10reb/3.3blk as a freshman with one hand............now put that up against what other big men are averaging in their 2nd and 3rd years in college fully healthy. Yeah. None of these guys have anywhere near the potential as a healthy Greg Oden, which is why it'd be beyond foolish to trade him. He showed you this year what he's capable of and he's only going to get better. If he stays healthy, he's a beast. That simple. But that's the way this board is and I'm used to it by now. If you aren't drastically overrating players you're killing them.
And you think if SAC had a top 3 pick on draft day they'd make this move - without knowing if Oden is recovered from his injury? This is the kind of trade that NEVER happens. It's too high risk for either GM to even consider and gets at least one of them fired. If Oden comes back healthy, Pritchard ends up potentially being the guy who traded 22-year old dominant center and 10 time all-star for a back-up power forward and Raef LaFrentz II. If Oden continues to suffer injuries and never lives up to his potential, Petrie is the guy who traded a productive player and a top 3 pick for a guy who was injured at the time. This trade is pure fan rambling. It will never happen and it will never even get talked about outside of internet forums. BNM
I would be willing to trade Oden and Roy for John Wall and Brook Lopez in the off season. I know that's a shocking thought for some of you but the bottom line is we have plenty of guys who can play two guard. I would even do it knowing that Roy and Oden would always be the more talented players. Largely because I don't think either one of them will be on the floor consistently. The bottom line is that I don't think the Nets would make that trade. It's fun to think about though.
There is absolutely no way I make this trade. Here is the way I look at it: 1) Keep Oden, and he has injury problems the rest of his career. Blazers get to the playoffs, without making a lot of noise. No Blazer championships. 2) Make this trade. We get a backup power forward and the chance of a good draft pick. Continually make the playoffs, but never serious contenders. 3) Keep Oden, and he finally stays healthy for several seasons. The Blazers are serious contenders for the championship every year. I say take the risk and go for (3). We don't win a championship with (1) or (2) anyway.
You can certainly argue that Oden has a higher ceiling than any player in this draft. It is equally true that he has a lower floor. Cole Aldrich in uniform is worth more than Oden in a suit and cast.
An interesting hypothetical. I wonder when/if the Blazer front office starts having under-the-breath discussions about these things. I also wonder if a GM called asking about Oden's availability last week.
A lower floor than any player in this draft? No way. Even in spite of the injuries, Oden has produced more than some of the guys in the incoming draft class will. Some of the players who get drafted will never see one second of NBA action. How is that a lower floor than Oden? Yes, and: Shavik Randolph in uniform is worth more than Oden in a suit and cast. BNM
Thompson isn't very intriguing to me at all, he's merely a serviceable Big. Portland has Pendergraph who is pretty similar in talents and game but both cheaper and further from his rookie deal expiring. I haven't been watching much college ball this year, but I'm also not hearing much buzz on the greatness of the next class... well actually I've been hearing/reading just the opposite. for Greg? Dude has already shown he's a game changing Big and is all of 22. None of his injuries have been joint injuries so there should be no long term affects holding him back from the potential he's already demonstrated. I'd be up for trading anyone on the roster for the right deal but this is scenario is pretty easy to dismiss STOMP
It's way, way too soon to panic on a guy who was dominating a little over 2 months ago - at the age of 21 with less than one season of NBA playing experience. Yes, the injuries have been numerous and unfortunate, but they are unrelated and he has come back from the previous injuries. Nobody ever mentions any long term effects from his wrist injury, do they? It sure doesn't seem to effect his shooting, rebounding, or shot blocking ability. Before breaking his knee cap he looked to be well on the way to recovering from the microfracture surgery. He was among the league leaders in PER, FG%, TRB% and BLK% - again this was as a 21-year old with less than a full season of NBA playing experience. Look at that again - among the league leaders in multiple offensive and defensive categories after coming back from microfracture surgery, as a 21-year old with limited NBA experience. And now we want to trade him over a broken knee cap? People around here panic WAY to easily and fail to see the big picture. Yeah, it would be great if Greg Oden had never been injured and was leading us to the NBA finals this year, but in the big picture, the guy has 10 more years to do that, and I think the chances of him accomplishing it are far greater than anybody in the 2010 NBA draft doing so. BNM
Serious question BNM: at what point do the Blazers stop being held hostage to Oden's "potential", and get on with their lives? You see this all the time in baseball. Top prospects break down, and despite their hypothetical potential, never make it to the show. Smart teams don't waste time worrying about it - they start looking for alternatives. Bad teams whine about their rotten luck. Sorry, but I'm with Hollinger - if the Blazers get anything out of Oden, it's gravy. It is silly to build all their plans around him.
serious question... Buck Williams = Jason Thompson? this is hoops not baseball and Greg has already demonstrated he has All Star level production in the NBA show. Name me a few of the top basketball prospects who's careers were cut short by injuries that didn't effect their longterm mobility. STOMP
By the way, people who want to give up Greg Oden for a high draft pick need to realize that a high draft pick is no guarantee of success. The last player picked No. 1 who has an NBA championship is Tim Duncan - chosen 14 years ago. The guys selected No. 1 over all after him (Michael Olowokandi, Elton Brand, Kenyon Martin, Kwame Brown, Yao Ming, LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Andrew Bogut, Andrea Bargnani, Greg Oden, Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin) have a total of ZERO championships. The only guys on that list I'd rather have than Oden are LeBron James and Dwight Howard (and possibly Yao Ming who is much older than Oden and has also been injured a lot). BNM
