No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insanity:

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  1. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    No you insult them and use the "crazy" emoticon.
     
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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    No dont dance around it by mentioning a emoticon...Explain......How are YOU right yet every stat diced ANY WAY YOU WANT IT says you are FACTUALLY wrong....as in not an opinion, just straight wrong.

    Like I said ....explain the stats I brought up 4 or so posts ago....those are your kind of stats since you shit on PER and they still make you obviously wrong.

    ...but yeah, just mention the " :crazy:"

    What a crock....you fail, just admit it on move onto your next argument...or are you gonna be this hard headed just to try and save face

    just admit youre wrong, everybody will forget in a few days........ unless I put it in my sig
     
  3. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    Dance around your last post?

    Someone has a rather high opinon of themselves don't they?

    I wasn't aware I was under a time restriction to respond to you.

    had you taken the time to breathe deeply into your lunch sack and read my responses you would have been able to answer your own question without looking at the clock watching the seconds tick away hoping I'd pay attention to you again.

    Response: Those stats fall in the same boat as PER. They are just stats. They only tell us certain part of the story.

    AGAIN: Stats have bias. Just like I do. their are 1000 different reasons someone's PER can increase. It is not cold hard fact/proof of anything. Ask Hollinger.

    Digging my grave? Get a grip darling it's just a message board.
     
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  4. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    What was that about Smoking pot again?






    Jesus christ :grin:

    Go for it you weirdo.

    Edit: I mean seriously dude. LOLZ
     
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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    Everybody please read the last 10+ posts if you want to see how hard headed OddEnourmous is....its amazing/pathetic

    PER isnt a real stat apparently, cant use it for ANYTHING

    I bring up "real stats"

    His sample size of 20 games = relevant
    My sample size of 20 games = irrelevant


    "Stats tell us only a certain part of the story" and OddEnourmous tells us that part of the story is wrong because....well he watched 80% of the games, thats why
     
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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    I'd say he's playing you. Either that, or he's really stubborn. Either way, I don't think you're going to change his mind. :)
     
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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    To take this a different direction...

    OddEnormous--this whole 'stats' argument stems from you saying that nobody on the team has improved over the previous year. (just to refresh...)
    So, can you tell us what objective measures you would consider as evidence of improvement--if any--or is this statement simply your opinion based on observation?
     
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  8. OddEnormous

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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    Yes this is an argument you think one way. I think another.

    that's why we're having this discussion.

    Again, stats are stats. I don not accept them as the full truth.

    So again

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    Just giving me a players PER numbers as PROOF that he has improved means nothing to me when it's quite obvious that there are too many other factors that come into play THAT ARE NOT included in PER's evaluation.

    BTW, It's obvious to the guy who invented it as well.

    Just not to you.
     
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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    Well, if the stats are seen as tainted, then all that matters is opinion. It's near-impossible to change somebody's opinion. I disagree with Odd's stance, but I can't change his opinion if he doesn't put validity into the statistics. Meh, we disagree. No need for me to be upset, is there?
     
  10. OddEnormous

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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    Yeah, I've watched over 80% of the games from last season and this season and formed an opinion based on my life's experiences.

    How do you form your opinions do you live with John Hollinger?
     
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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    I don't, but I kinda wish I did. However did I survive in the pre-PER era?
     
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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    (im just gonna ignore your last incoherrent post saying the same thing again, say it louder and it might be true!)


    Oh....another thing....

    We are comparing their PER to themselves. This isnt like we are comparing player x to player y where it is quite possible for one of those players to contribute in a way that wouldnt show in PER. We are comparing their own PER to themselves, hence the obvious, the PER's are coming from a same style of player.

    I think you need some Pepto Bismol in your "gut feeling"
     
  13. OddEnormous

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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan


    I don't not put validity into them. Stats are only PART of the story. So is circumstance, so is luck etc etc etc.

    On the other side it pops out as opinion.


    Please don't put this in as your sig. I'm not sure I could cope with that.
     
  14. OddEnormous

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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    :grin:
     
  15. OddEnormous

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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan


    OK.

    Can you do me a favor? Once you get your awesome burn sig set up...

    Can you forward it to me so I can use it as mine too.
     
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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    Calm down dude--I wasn't making any value statements one way or another. I just wanted to help clarify your position.

    If your opinion is based solely on personal observation, personal interpretation of observed data, and personal life experience, then it is obvious that the only way someone could discuss these opinions with you would be if you were to provide details from your personal observations that lead you to the conclusions at which you've arrived.

    Since nobody has requested these details from you--and you have not provided them--the conversation has gone nowhere.

    Now to try to approach this on a rational level, based on what you have observed of, say, Jerryd Bayless, what exactly leads you to conclude that he has not improved at all this year?
     
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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    I love it....this is textbook "save face" posting
    Make nice with the other people who are shooting you down....ignoring the rational arguments I brought in the last few posts.....quoting the irrelevant parts and giving one word answers...trying to make the thread die


    .....good times :clap:
     
  18. OddEnormous

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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    I'm very calm fella.
     
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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    OK. Your overly-aggressive reply to my simple question seemed to suggest the contrary, but since there's no real way for me to know, I'll take your word for it.
     
  20. OddEnormous

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    Re: No more proof needed than this that McMillan is bordering on Anal Retentive insan

    You think your arguments are rational I do not.

    I think mine are, you think they are not.

    I'm pretty sure that's been clear since the get go.

    At least to me.
     

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