What would you give up for Chris Paul?

When it come to Chris Paul, I'd trade anyone on the team not named Travis Deiner. I wouldn't want to trade several of our best guys, but nobody on their own would be untouchable that's for sure.

 

Well I would add Rudy for sure... he will do his off season whining again this year I am sure.... so send him packing before he starts.


I think an expiring contracts of Miller and Joel are used as part of it. With Joel's likely paid by insurance now. A big plus in the deal. You shed big money and don't even pay for it. Just before the new CBA.

We don't deal Batum. there were rumblings about the Hornets wanting to shed salary for the big contracts they have. So... that is a starting point.

 

I would trade any player not named Oden. Oden, injured as he is, remains our best chance at a championship.

 

I don't see this trade working without Roy for a few reasons:

1. NO won't trade Paul for complimentary pieces, they will require a franchise player in return.
2. A Roy/Paul backcourt is less than ideal IMO-- Too much overlap in their offensive games.

I'm not sure of the salary aspects because I don't understand the PPP stuff (any CBA guys please feel free to chime in), but from a pure talent/contract length/fairness perspective, I think it would take at least something like Roy/Miller/Przy/Draft pick or Euro Rights for Paul/Bad contract to get a deal done. Probably more in reality, though.

That would give NO a franchise 2 guard to play alongside Collison and a veteran backup PG as well. Przy and Miller both come off the books at the end of next season.

That would leave us with a rotation of:

Paul/Bayless
Rudy/Bayless/Webster
Batum/Webster/Cunningham
LMA/Camby?/Pendergraph/Cunningham
Oden/Camby?/LMA

 

I would trade anyone on the roster for Paul, and with the exception of a couple of players, I would trade any 3 players to get him.


That being said......Paul would not be a good fit in Nate's offense.

 

I would give up anybody on the team for Paul.

 

Ok, that makes sense. Thanks

 

I would give up anchovies.

 

I would give Roy left nut . . . I know it will be painful, but it is a sacrafice I'm willing to make.

 

Chris Paul = Brandon Roy + 6 more assist per game.

 

Amazing to think Paul might actually be available. But Collison is putting up 20 points and 10 assists/game. Chris Paul makes $16 mil next year and Collison makes $1.3 mil. By the time they negotiate Collison's next salary, there will be a much different CBA.

Man, if I were NO I don't know if I could bring myself to trade a once-in-a-generation 24 year old point guard like Paul. But I can definitely see why a team might do it.

I wonder if they'd go for Brandon Roy straight across. (Probably doesn't work under salary rules, but play along.) I realize it's not fair value, but is there another team willing to give up a better young player?

Guys better than or about as good as Roy in the same age range, and not point guards, who might be available: Tyreke Evans (not there yet, but you can see how he could be), Durant, Dwight Howard, Carmello, LeBron, Wade, Bosh...who am I missing?

I could see Denver offering up Carmello, assuming they fizzle in the playoffs and they want to do a quick overhaul. Evans is possible. Durant and Howard aren't going anywhere. The other guys are free agents.

Hmm. Interesting to think about.

Maybe it makes more sense for them to trade Collison for Tyreke Evans.

 

It's kind of funny with Collison. I watched the game the other night where he broke the 20 assist mark. Probably 13 were assist (which is pretty damn good.) But lets put it this way. They are pretty generous with the assists in New Orleans for their home boys.

 

I don't want to commit blasphemy, but is Chris Paul really all that?

Yes, yes, I know, once in a generation stats, etc., but he does dominate the ball an awful lot, and I tend to think that's not that healthy for a team. The last time a ball-dominating little man won a title was Isiah's Pistons, was it not? And put Paul on a really good team (like the "Redeem Team") and he looks less useful. And the fact that Darren Collison is putting up huge numbers in NO's system says less about Collison and more about the system, I think.

By comparison, I used to be a huge Rajon Rondo fan. But as he gets better (more Paul-like, if you will), the Celtics seem to be shrinking. He is now capable of taking over entire games by himself, as much as somebody 6' can. And they're sucking pretty bad.

I still prefer Deron Williams. I did on draft day 2006, and every other year, I look pretty much right. Now, I'd be excited if the Blazers did somehow land him. But then I was excited when they landed Damon, too.

 

1. You would have a point if Isiah never won a couple of championships. But he did. So did Dwayne Wade who dominates the ball as well.

2. So your blaming Rajon Rondo for the Celtics getting old and at the same time, getting rid of all the glue guys that helped them get there the first time?

3. I prefer Darrin Williams too. But Darrin Williams doesn't have an up and coming point guard making him possibly available.

 

I'm not sure his size really matters. His defense is okay, from what I've seen and read, and his size doesn't seem to be affecting his vision and ability to create plays. As for his dominating the ball...a great point guard should be dominating the ball, since he's essentially the quarterback of the team. A point guard who uses most of the clock himself and then finds a great scoring opportunity for his team is just fine.

I think the Celtics' fall has a lot more to do with the dwindling primes of Garnett, Pierce and Allen.

 

a) Yes, Isiah Thomas won two championships. But that was 20 years ago, and the game has changed. And in fact, it changed so quickly that his team got swept by the new guard the next year. Also Isiah "would cut your nuts off to win" as Barkley put it. The man was psychopathic about winning. Chris Paul strikes me as remarkably sane, although pretty intense.
b) Wade was not a PG, so the ball was out of his hands, and he couldn't dominate it like a PG. And he's several inches taller, ten times as athletic, and with arms that scrape the floor. Otherwise a great comparison.

No, I'm blaming him for hogging the ball, as I've watched him do an awful lot recently.

I know of no Darrin Williams.
It's a bit early to say that Collison makes Chris Paul available. Let's see if NO can win a few games with him first.

 

Why is it always the left one? Is this some sort of Conservative plot to eliminate future Liberals?

 

This is true.

The game has actually gotten a lot more friendly to small, quick point guards then it was in Zeke's day.

No hand checking outside the key, flagrent fouls called WAY more frequently, and no charges inside the circle.

If anything, Isiah would be far more successful now then he was back then.


Also, CP3 is a fucking psycho on the court. If there is any one guy who hates to lose, it's that dude.


So yes, CP3 IS all that. And a bag of chips, a Guiness and a hot chick who loves to give blow jobs.


I would trade anyone on this team for CP3 and not think twice about it.