Not Sure I Like This Remark So Much...

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  1. PHXBlazer1

    PHXBlazer1 Well-Known Member

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    I think he does, too. But I'm not 100% sold. The whole Miller/Roy thing is just weird to me. They haven't had a conversation off the court all year? (sorry no link but I coulda swore I read that) Meh...fuck it. Roy stepped up in the playoffs last year. He will this year. Go Blazers! :cheers:
     
  2. Tince

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    That is not true. The blazers run far less isolation playoffs than most nba team do. I don't understand why people continue to say this without having any facts to back it up.
     
  3. The Sebastian Express

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    Sorry, it's true.
     
  4. mgb

    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

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    When I see the whole quote it makes me wonder why the original poster took one part of it completely out of context and just posted that. He says he just wants to find a balance of him having the ball but not over doing it. What more could you ask for?
     
  5. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    this and sly's posts prove this is going to be a loooooooooooooooooong off season in s2 land.
     
  6. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    That pretty much sums it up.

    It's kinda like walking out of a casino on a night that I had lost, then saying to myself, "Dang, I should have played blackjack more instead of spending so much time at the slots."

    Really, though, what this ALL boils down to is, this team still needs (carries over from last year) another player the rest of the players - including Roy - can trust taking shots down the stretch. Miller has been filling in handsomely, but he ain't it.
     
  7. Tince

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    As compelling as that argument is, I'm going to have to tell you that you're wrong.

    Denver, Golden State, New York, Dallas, LA Clippers, Heat, Cavs, and Hawks all quickly off the top of my head use isolations considerably more than we do.

    Now if you want to say that the NBA uses ISO's way too often, I can buy that, but being able to log games allows me to watch other teams in the NBA just as objectively.
     
  8. mgb

    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

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    So you have a problem with him trying to find a balance of him having the ball, but not over doing it? That's in the same quote. I would think you would have to be trying real hard to nit pick at what he said in that statement to come away with just that small part and critize him about it. Talk about tunnel vision.

    And by the way I bet there are times he felt he might have shot to much in a lost that's why he says a balance.
     
  9. ABM

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    Perhaps.

    As well, this comment was made directly preceding Roy's remarks:

    I may have misinterpreted the words 'tension' and 'issue'. Not sure.
     
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    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

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    I'm not sure of your point? It's something he's working on? If there was no issue there would be no problem. Nit pick.
     
  11. Masbee

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    There is a weird dynamic going on with Brandon which has been ongoing for the last several years.

    Some games he seems too passive and too willing to give up decent looks in order to move the ball or set-up other guys. Some games it seems like he has tunnel vision and he jacks up too many tough shots and has trouble with double-teams due to it.

    He has had problems dealing with Miller and Oden and incorporating them into the offense smoothly. I think this is a learning process for him. One that will never end. Look at the career arc of better players like Jordan and Kobe. They went through phases of playing style.

    I bet money that McMillan has been riding Roy for years now to be more assertive and more agressive in looking for his shot, trying to get the other team into foul trouble, making something happen, etc.

    That is all fine, but we don't want Brandon too cross some imaginary line and become too selfish and take too many bad shots and take too many other players out of their stride. He has to find that balance. He isn't Jordan who was good enough to win many games virtually by himself. Brandon will never beat LeBron by himself. Brandon may be our best player, but he isn't the best player in the NBA. Our other players our critical in creating a stronger team.
     
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    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    Horsepucky.

    Jordan had squat for teamates in his early years.

    You could make an argument for the couple of years preceeding his first ring as he couldn't get past Detroit, but not before that. Weak roster was the key problem.
     
  13. ABM

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    Sure. We're all guilty of that from time to time. My time had just rolled around. :)
     
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    I want him at his best come winning time/the end of the game and want their other quality options being utilized more up to that point. Spreading the ball around during the course of the game keeps him from getting as beat up and having to go against double teams all game long. I really like the club's balanced attack these days.

    also, I also don't see Roy quite as dominant/good as some of the game's best that have been mentioned. Good thing Portland has another great playmaker in Andre. I'd suggest Miller probably is a better backcourt talent then any of the others mentioned enjoy playing with

    STOMP
     
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  15. ABM

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    I'm tellin' ya.............
     
  16. gatorpops

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    I'm not so sure that Roy should have had the ball in his hands more tonight. :sigh:
     
  17. ABM

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    Well, I guess we'll now get to see if the Blazers focus on a ball-movement-style offense with #7 watching from the bench.
     
  18. BlazerCaravan

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    They absolutely will not; we will run iso with Andre for the last 5 minutes of the game.
     
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    Iso or pick and pop with Aldridge in the last two minutes. Basically the same sets we see with Roy. I don't agree with the 5 minutes comment, because it isn't at all based in reality. Neither is the "we only run iso with Roy" strawman, but it's impossible to break an ideology.
     
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  20. ABM

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    My biggest deal in all of this is that, on many occasions, when Brandon gets the ball starts his little shake with his head down, the rest of the guys become spectators.

    That won't happen with him out. If Andre gets the ball, at least he has the court awareness to see if anyone becomes open....then get it to them.
     

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