Not Sure I Like This Remark So Much...

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  1. BGrantFan

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    Roy averaged 0.7 less assists per game as a ballhog than Miller does as a distributing PG. Making things up to bolster a sketchy opinion does not make that opinion any more valid. :devilwink:
     
  2. ABM

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    Nate simplifies the offense at the end of games, though, IMO, that's when Miller is better as the floor general.
     
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    Based on what statistical data? The Blazers had a much better record with Roy playing this year than without him, and Roy has a history of winning close games. You are complaining about a strategy that is more successful than what you hope to be true with 'Dre.

    It may be your opinion, and I do hope it's correct against the Suns, but it isn't reality. I guess everybody needs to be a critic, but blasting Roy for consistently winning games seems kooky to me.
     
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    :dunno: Funny that when Nate ran ISOs for Zach, people thought it was a horrrible tactic.

    When the 76ers let Eddie Jordan go, the Blazers should consider hiring him as offensive coordinator. While he has his flaws as a head coach, he does understand the Princeton offense and the concept of players moving without the ball.
     
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    Portland was 7-9 in games Miller didn't start. 43-23 in games he did start.

    Blazers were 42-23 in games Roy started. 8-9 in games he missed.
     
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    I've watched enough (ends of) games to form an opinion. I doubt there's any type of statistical data to back it up, though.

    That said, I'm excited to see what our band of survivors will employ against the Suns. :cheers:
     
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    I just hope we don't get voted off the island in 4!
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    No kidding, winning is a longshot, but damn I'm gonna be a little bit depressed if they get 'broomed'
     
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    Just between me and you.......................... if it goes 7, Greg is gonna pull a Willis Reed! ( kinda funny when you think about it, cause his dick is as big as Mr. Reed!)
     
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    You've seen Willis Reed's cock?
     
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    Yep........ and Moses Malone. Let's just say he could "part the sea" with that beast!
     
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    Or he'll shoot 6 threes (0-6) like he did the last time we played the Suns. Or completely ignore a hot Martell Webster the last time we played the Nuggets.
     
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    Or score 52 AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Eric, you honestly wish that my boy Steve Blake was out starting PG tomorrow night? I can tell you that Steve Nash sure wishes he was!
     
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    Why would Steve Nash wish that we started Blake?? Alvin Gentry called Steve Blake "a Suns killer" and said he is glad that Blake doesn't play for us anymore. Blake dropped 20 & 12 the last time we beat the Suns. When is the last time Andre Miller had a dominant game against the Suns? He was horrible the last time we played them.

    **Edit- actually, Miller had 20 points, 7 assts, & 5 rebs in the same game that Blake had 20/12. So I guess the key to our playoff series is Jerryd Bayless. He dropped 29 in our first win over the Suns.
     
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    29 other NBA teams would rather face the Blazers with Steve Blake as our PG instead of Andre. A straight up fact! Steve's game down here in our "W" was great, but in a 7 game series, we want Miller!
     
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    If the Suns don't want to face Blake (and they flat out don't), doesn't that only leave 28 other teams?
     
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    They are full of shit! Who in there right mind thinks that Blake is better then Dre?!? WHO? He may have been a better fit with Brandon's game, but Dre and Roy are one of the best backcourts in the league. You can't say the same about Brandon and Steve. Be realistic for once please.
     
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    Alvin Gentry fears Steve Blake, Suns killer:

    http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2010/4/16/1426603/phoenix-suns-practice-report-where

    Blake's 20/12 game, his last as a Blazer, led us to our only win in Phoenix in like, years, right?

    And it's not about Blake or Miller. It's about having Blake AND Miller. With Roy out, we could really use Blake right now.
     
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    does anyone know of a usage % stat broken up by quarter or "crunch time". Maybe Tince or someone else could correct me on this, but from pure memory I'm thinking that Roy's usage rate is disproportionately heavy in the last 6 minutes (you could very easily say "duh, that's how Nate plans it, to have the star player with the ball" and I wouldn't disagree)...but to bring up usage rate seems a bit off for me (especially when comparing to other teams) b/c afaik, the L*kers don't spend the first 8 minutes "establishing" Pau Gasol. Jordan's Bulls didn't spend the first half "establishing" Ho Grant. Denver doesn't "establish" Nene. HOU did somewhat with Yao. Even the Magic don't work to get Howard open. Roy's usage rate is skewed b/c of the game plan to "establish" LMA early.
    I'm generally of the opinion that I don't mind Roy with the ball and making decisions in the 4th. But he's NOT good enough to go 1-on-3 like LBJ or K*be or Wade is for an entire 3 minutes and be successful--especially when we have the tools so that he doesn't HAVE to if the plan isn't set up like that. Is there a number that anyone does think would be too high? If it came up that he's a 40% USG in the 4th? 50%? Hell, 95% if that's what it takes, b/c he's our all-star?
     

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