BREAKING NEWS - Car In Times Square Found With Explosives

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  1. ABM

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    Hmm...

    Reading a Yahoo! article, it definitely seems that it was an attempted attack. The plates don't match up and are from the junk yard, so it will be tough to know whether this was an attempted foreign or domestic terror attack.
     
  3. tlongII

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    Seems to amateurish to be the work of Al Queda to me. I would guess it's an attack from within.
     
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    Yes because people who live in caves in Pakistan and use women and children as suicide bombers would never use something as low tech as a car to put a bomb in?
     
  5. ABM

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    Perhaps, he may have been referring to the bomb's contents - gasoline and propane. Al Queda's bombs have generally been a bit more advanced than that.
     
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    What are you talking about? You're confusing the terrorists in 24 and the movies with real life. There are no "sophistication" rules for what a terrorist uses to cause terror.

    "Dear Mr Abdul,

    It has come to out attention that you recently used gasoline and propane in a car bomb in New York City. You are in clear violation of rule 27.4 in the Al Queda rules of terrorism manual. Using such low tech combustibles for your bomb makes us look not only bad but also amateurish. Also because we are actually sending you this letter means that you also violated rule 44.7 and did not blow up yourself along with the bomb. Because of these violations we are terminating your membership in Al Queda. In the next couple of weeks you will receive a letter from accounting reimbursing you the prorated balance of this year's membership fee. "
     
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    I'm not speaking of "rules" so much as I'm speaking of history. That said, it certainly doesn't mean Al Queda "wasn't" responsible.
     
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    That's exactly what I'm referring to. Al Queda generally uses high explosives.
     
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    What are YOU talking about? Would you care to give the supposedly numerous examples of Al Queda using gasoline cans as their explosive ordinance in car bombs?
     
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    And I'm not saying Al Queda didn't do it either. It just doesn't look like their M.O. to me.
     
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    Huh? In the history of people acting in the name of Al Queda there has never been gasoline used in a car bomb? I didn't know that Al Queda only used electric cars for car bombs.

    All I'm saying is that why not leave the professionals determine who did this bomb, it could have very well come from a domestic source but to try and rule out what terrorism group did or didn't do this by what kind of terrorist device used seems very dumb to me.

    We're going to see lots of groups claim responsibility for this, seems like the Taliban are now. http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/nyc/pakistani-taliban-claims-responsibility-20100502-ac
     
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    Not that I've heard of. Hard to say, though. I'm simply saying that, if it were Al Queda, I would imagine they'd put something together that would potentially cause much more damage/harm/death.

    http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/08/21/terror.tape.main/index.html
     
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    And all of the governments work on making it harder for terrorists to smuggle such items in to the USA or to buy or steal them in the USA might not be working? Al Queda doesn't have a high tech standard for how they cause terrorism.
     
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    "Detectives are also understood to be investigating striking similarities between the New York bomb and two car bombs planted by Islamic terrorists outside the Tiger Tiger nightclub in London in 2007.

    In both cases, the devices comprised cylinders of propane gas and cans full of petrol intended to be ignited by electronic detonators. "

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-bomb-police-investigate-South-Park-link.html
     
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    Are all Islamic terrorists necessarily members of Al Queda? Just wondering.
     
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    No ABM, my point all along has been and only will be is that you can not rule out Al Queda because the bomb was not as sophisticated as you think an Al Queda bomb should be.
     
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    I don't think you're hearing what tlong related, and I'm agreeing with. That is, we're certainly not ruling out Al Queda. It just doesn't appear to their MO. These are all opinions only.
     
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    Exactly.

     
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    Their MO is to promote a political and religious agenda through the use of terrorism. They have shown a determined willingness to carry this terrorism by any means possible and available to them.

    I'm not stupid ABM, I understood that these are just opinions. I just thought that tlongs statement of "Seems to amateurish to be the work of Al Queda to me. I would guess it's an attack from within" as an assumption based on faulty evidence and logic. At this point I am not ruling out any terrorist organization based on the items that were used in making the bomb. I think that is a huge mistake, one that I hope the people who are investigating this in NY are not making. (Which it sounds like they're not.)
     
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    Exactly what? You said, "Seems to amateurish to be the work of Al Queda to me. I would guess it's an attack from within." I disagree with your conclusion, ruling out a terrorist organization based on the lack of sophistication of the terror causing device used makes no sense to me.
     

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