Bosh for Bynum a done deal?

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  1. Mamba

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    And for the record, I think Bosh and Pau would be a horrible pairing. Absolutely horrid. Do you think Bosh or Pau would accept being 3rd fiddle? I doubt either one would and they aren't really capable of being lockdown post defenders. If this crackhead writer thinks we're going to trade Bynum, it better be for a PG, not another big.
     
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    Well Pau isn't quick enough to guard 4's, he's certainly not a super quick player to start off with. I thought he proved his post defense in the Finals or at least to an adequate degree. Bosh would be ok at the 4 for us and Pau uses less possessions than Bargnani.
     
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    all we need is a pg.. but i dont think we're going to ship bynum out for a guard...
     
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    This was a rumor originated by Peter Vescey some months ago. I'm not sure why its being rehashed now and hopefully it doesn't become a distraction for Bynum who also has to worry about the small tear in his MCL. I really give him a lot of credit for continuing to play despite the amount of risk involved.

    I'm not sure what to make of Bynum and his future at this point. Once a player (especially a big) deals with injuries early on they generally tend to experience injuries throughout their career.

    Exhibit A - Shaq has never played an 82 game season. His first 3 years were pretty much injury free and he played 81, 81 & 79 games, but after injuries started showing up his availability declined.

    Exhibit B - Yao also had a solid start to his career, but ever since his foot problems emerged his availability has declined in a hurry

    Some other players around Bynum's size with constant injuries .. Bogut, Kaman, Nene, Chandler, and of course Oden is off to horrible start to his professional career.

    I realize Bynum's first two devastating knee injuries were freak accidents, but because of those two injuries his odds of staying healthy throughout the course of a season lowered substantially.
     
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    I dont have any faith in Bynum staying healthy for long. At this point, I just hope he can be healthy when the playoffs roll around. If we can do Bynum for Bosh, you HAVE to make that trade.
     
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    Granted, my view is from the cheap seats, but I think that if you can turn Bynum into Bosh that makes you guys pretty scary. Someone brought up "who's the third fiddle b/w Pau and Bosh"? I'd submit that you're not that far from Bynum wondering why he is 3rd. If it weren't for his odd issue of reinjuring the same knee over and over, he might have a legit argument. But I think he was groomed to be the Dominant Big Man (tm), got that attitude in his mind, and now is starting to wonder when it's going to happen.

    Bynum in TOR (if healthy) could be a pretty decent force in the East. If I'm TOR, there aren't many other S&T's you're going to get better than Bynum. If I'm Bryan Colangelo, I would probably go in this (pipe dream) order of S&T options:
    1) Bynum
    2) Dirk?
    3) LMA
    4) Lee/Gallinari
    5) Beasley/Haslem/picks
    and I'm probably missing someone big...

    If this is legit, I'm not sure either says no. And I'm pretty sure the L*kers don't say "no" first.
     
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    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2010/05/05/bosh-in-purple-and-gold/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

    interesting article.

    idk if im into bynum for cb4 though. though pau and cb4 look good on paper, they both aren't true centers like bynum, and they both like to have the ball in their hands A LOT. and dont forget about #24, just too much offense from bigs, imo. i still prefer getting joakim noah, but if we go for cb4, perhaps try and pry calderon as well from toronto. send the sasha to balance things out. getting cb4 wont solve our PG issues.
     
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    Bynum looks good on paper, but he's not a true second option. Pau already has been and he's destroying people in the playoffs.

    Joakim Noah is vastly inferior offensively.

    Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol use almost exactly the same percentage of team possessions.
     
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    Jose Calderon would be a terrible fit on the Lakers IMO. We need a PG who can stay in front of these speed guards and function in half court offense. I don't see Calderon capable of doing either.

    What do you guys think of limiting Bynum in the regular season to improve the odds for him being healthier in the post season? Maybe limit him to 55 a season and monitor his minutes?
     
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    ^ Calderon is a conservative half-court point guard, but he can't guard anyone, so you're mostly right.
     
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    Sure limiting Andrew would work I think. At least until he can show he can handle the stress of a season.

    Jose Calderon has the worst defensive numbers on the worst defensive team in the league btw.
     
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    Maybe limit Drew til he turns 25, when he is definitely done growing. You can't limit him his whole career, though.
     
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    Then Marcus Banks. HAHA he's never used anyway, and we have tried to take him from Boston when we traded away Gary Payton.

    IDK I just can't see Bosh and Pau working well together. Yeah, Noah is "vastly inferior" offensively, but that way Pau is unquestionably the second option (who would be second option, Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol?) and Noah could focus on rebounding and blocking shots (rebounding was an art lost in the regular season amongst our bigs, though they seem to have vastly improved in the playoffs). Also, we could try and get Hinrich from Chicago as well. I've said it before, and y'all disagreed: Bosh ONLY IF we get a PG in return, but I MUCH rather prefer Noah and Hinrich.
    PG Kirk Hinrich
    SG Kobe Bryant
    SF Ron Artest
    PF Joakim Noah
    C Pau Gasol

    ewwwww.

    This may have been the hundredth time I projected this roster out to other Laker fans. Even if we win the championship (which I am certain we will), things aren't all great in Lakerland. Teams are catching up WAY too fast, so we need to adapt. We get a PG who is actually legit in Hinrich, and get a defensive WARRIOR who is very young in Noah. Give Chicago Bynum, Farmar, Sasha, and cash. This fills their center and shooting voids.
     
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    I would also like to add, trading up picks (even if it means giving up Shannon Brown) for Chicago's #1 may be worth it. I absolutely LOVE Paul George. He reminds me so much of Trevor Ariza, and he is very obtainable for us. This is NOT a pipe dream.
     
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    Why are we trading for Noah in the first place? I'd rather just have Bynum then.

    You can't see Bosh and Pau working out because you must not like healthy, elite players. ;)

    Kobe is the one that might have to defer a bit, but at his age I wouldn't mind. Save him for the post-season. I'm also sure Bosh would not have a meniscus problem in the playoffs.
     
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    Id prefer a Hinrich + Noah for Bynum trade over a bosh for bynum one...
     
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    Just throwing this up there... Is there a way for us to get a Noah - type player and a pick that could land john wall for Bynum, fillers? LOL
     
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    Bosh owns Noah, and if we can get a point for the MLE that would be great.
     
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    If the Lakers could trade Bynum for Bosh, they'd be nuts not to do it. Bosh would extend the Lakers' window for winning championships.

    When you talk about who's the best PF in the league, Bosh deserves mention. When you talk about who's the best C in the league, nowhere near as true for Bynum. Along those lines, Bosh is certainly a top 10 or even top 5 player. Bynum isn't even close.

    Gasol would be pretty awesome full-time at C in the triangle, and Bosh would certainly play well alongside him.
     
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    I don't know about this one. I think Andrew is more dominate with his size.
     

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