Horrible thought: Oden not safe if Pritchard leaves?

If it's really the case, as some people have suggested, that part of what's pissed Allen off about Pritchard is his taking Oden over Durant, could it be the case that any following GM will want to dump Oden just to remove the "stain" of the Pritchard era? If anything like this happens, I will find it very hard to care about the Blazers for the forseeable future:

 

First, I have to say I enjoy the irony of this thread.

Back on BBF, there was a vocal contingent of posters who were gung-ho to trade LMA for the chance to draft Beasley. Now, nobody wants to touch him. No offense, but some Blazer fans are getting *too* gunshy over maturity/character/personality issues.

Second, whoever is brought in to replace KP will have no reason NOT to trade Oden. He will have no emotional attachment to the kid, and will be able to evaluate him in an objective manner. If he is offered fair value - which is going to be less than some fans think - I would hope he does make a deal. This fiasco is a black cloud hanging over the team, and clearing the air is a perfectly reasonable move. Keep in mind, that between the pending lockout and his pending free agency, his trade value will only go down.

Would you really prefer that the team either over-pay to re-sign him, or let him leave as a FA for nothing??

 

Talk about irony. If his trade value is going down so damn much, why will they have to overpay to re-sign him? Sign him for fair market value, and if he overcomes his injury woes, you have a dominant center at a rock bottom bargain price. If he continues to suffer more injuries, you're not out that much since you re-signed him when his value was low.

BNM

 

It seems absurd that Allen would fire KP over drafting Oden when by all reports Allen was like a kid on Christmas morning draft day. It was reported he got so antsy over the possiblity the phone might go out that he had 7 separate telephone lines in the "war room" (too bad BP does not have that kind of fail safe back-up). Normally the GM makes the call but he insisted on making the call himself. After all this, he would fire KP for the choice?

I think Oden is pretty safe, how many people would mess with some 7' guy?

 

If Oden is part of the reason Pritchard is getting canned, why the fuck would Oden even want to stay in Portland? If Paul Allen isn't behind Oden, Greg should just demand a trade and get out of this clusterfuck.

 

Paul Allen seems like the type of guy who changes his socks 3 times a day. How he felt 3 years ago likely has no relevance on how he feels today. He apparently was fond of Pritchard as well 3 years ago, yet look where we are now.

 

Can you structure an incentive into a contract for "games played"? Of course I am all for offering Oden a contract extension, but we should be able to say her gets X amount of dollars if he only plays 41 games, X amount of dollars if he plays 60 games, and X amount of dollars if he plays a full 81 games. This would give the Blazers the ability to give him a lot of money if he stays healthy, while only guaranteeing a smaller amount.

 

Not under the current CBA.

 

As I understand it, you can have incentive clauses, and they can save the team actual $$ - however - for purposes of the salary cap, the league will (usually) treat it like guaranteed money. The only exception is for incentive clauses that are waaay out there - eg a bonus for Pryz if he makes the all-star game, or a bonus for Batum if he leads the league in scoring.

I'm not sure where a "games played" fits, or if it is even allowed.

 

You would enjoy this thread. All the grouchy Blazers fans are the black cloud over this team, not a number one pick who's been injured playing the toughest position in the league at 21 years of age. Clearing the air was clearing out the Jail-Blazers era, any GM would be stupid to disrupt our Big 3, they are the face of the franchise

 

Yes, you are correct, contracts can be totally loaded with incentive clauses and, for salary cap purposes, the league classifies those incentives as likely and unlikely.

I don't remember the exact details, or even if they were disclosed, but the contract extension Brandon Roy signed last summer has games played incentive clauses (due to long term concerns about Brandon's heel and knees). I believe the league considered them "likely" so they will count against the cap.

BNM

 

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q63

 

Weird, then, that Pendergraph's second year becamse guaranteed after appearing in so many games.

 

That isn't tied into how much money he makes during that season, though. It only guaranteed a contract, which is fine since Pendergraph was a second-round pick.

 

Sure it is. He can either make 800,000, or 0.

 

Also, Nate Robinson missed out on a bonus this season that triggered if he played in at least 58 games and played in the playoffs. He lost 1 million dollars by being benched in two late season games.

 

Perhaps I should clarify. He doesn't make X for 20 games, then 2X for 40 games, then 3X for 60 games ... that can't be done under the CBA.

 

well, Nate Robinson had a bonus on his contract for games played.

 

I know. I wonder if that has to do with the one-year QO he signed? Or is classified as some sort of bonus on top of his guaranteed salary?