Warriors Uninterested In Al Jefferson

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  1. truebluefan

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    The Warriors are not interested in acquiring Al Jefferson in a trade with the Timberwolves, sources tell Marcus Thompson of the Contra Costa Times.

    Minnesota GM David Kahn has been shopping Jefferson throughout the offseason.

    http://twitter.com/gswscribe/status/17749808417
     
  2. Run BJM

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    Steinmentz says we want David Lee. I'm not a big fan of his. Hes a good player but IMO hes not as impactful as his stats suggest and hes not a guy I would want to pay 10 mil/year (and thats a very low estimate of what he'll get this offseason).
     
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    I'd much rather have Jefferson than Lee. :(
     
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    LOL Al Jefferson is a 20 & 10 beast when healthy. Golden State needs a low post threat and rebounding, I don't understand why they would not do this deal.
     
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    Me too but I'm not sure that I really want either. Both have PF bodies, rebound well, crappy on defense. Al is more of a low post scorer but I don't really think either are winners. They would be upgrades but it would piss me off watching them play C game in and game out. And they would both make a lot of money.
     
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    Al is too injury prone for warriors liking right now.

    I think I am going to jump off the trade monta bandwagon. I think the earliest we should deal him is the all star break when I believe his stock will be much higher.
     
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    Lee is more athletic than Jefferson and I believe much more fundamentally sound. Jefferson can't run due to his lack of athleticism and injuries. He is a liability on defense.

    Lee isn't. I don't think he's that bad on defense. He plays with energy and understands boxing out. You guys should read this:

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/07/05/10/..._steinmetz_v3.html?blockID=266108&feedID=2799
     
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    I'm not totally against trading him but his value could definitely be higher if we wait. Just wait for some of the big FAs to sign somewhere and see whos left out. The Knicks are scrambling to get a second star in NY now that it seems Bron, Wade, and Bosh aren't going their (just officially signed Amare and JJ is gone). The Nets may end up with no notable FAs. The Heat could be left high and dry. The Bulls could come away with nothing. There's a whole host of other teams who don't have big time cap room but also want to shakeup: Houston, Toronto, Denver, Orlando, Boston, and Dallas have been rumored to be very active thus far in free agency.

    A lot of teams will be freaking out after promising their fans big things in 2010 free agency and coming out with a bust.
     
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    I personally saw from the 4th row Lee go for 30/20/10 and he did not dominate the ball. It was pretty quiet actually but still impressive. Then again it was the W's and the Knicks were running as well. He might not be bad with Biedrins alongside him, not so good if he was the C.

    I'm thinking let's wait to see what Randolph and Wright can provide.
     
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    He put up 37/20/10 in that game against us...and his team still lost. And we started Curry and 4 reserves. This is what concerns me about him. He gets numbers but I don't think he'll make you win many more games. His impact on defense is piss poor and I get the impression hes a stat stuffing rebounder a la Troy Murphy. I like his rebounding and energy, finishing ability, pick and roll ability, but I wouldn't give up very much for him and I just flat out do not want him at all if hes making anything more than 8 million a season.

    IMO hes a bench player on a good team.
     
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    I agree on not trading Monta for now, there's no point unless the other side has some crazy offer.

    As far as Lee, he is among the better power forwards in the league, but that speaks somewhat to the lack of great big men and the rise of wings and guards in today's era. There are quite a few power forwards who are better on the boards and offensive end than defensive end: Boozer, West, Randolph, Jefferson or Stoudamire. Lee is comparable to these guys, in that he'll always produce, but won't give as much as an impact as a star player. Very few forwards are better than average on both ends, really, and the lack of these kind of players is why I so desperately want a young defensive power forward, because offense seems to be something learned much more easily than the ability to react quickly or have strength on defense. Anyway, Lee's definitely starter material in my eyes, but a 3rd or 4th option - because he's pretty good on the offensive boards, he's going to get points, and like the article that Doctor Kajita linked, because he works for defensive rebounds, he will shave off a few points from the opposing team. To me, the most distressing part and biggest reason not to pursue him is his cost - he's productive enough to be paid over $10 million per year in this climate, but signing him at that rate would basically stifle the Warriors instead of providing growth.

    Honestly, if we were looking for a veteran power forward, I'd prefer someone like Udonis Haslem given his productivity-to-cost ratio, though he's out of our price range too and a sign-and-trade isn't realistic with Miami because we don't really have anything worth giving up for him. Still, probably one of the more underrated defenders in the league, tough rebounder, and manages to be a solid role player, and gives you as much as Lee would but at about two-thirds the cost. Though in the end, he wouldn't solve any of our problems either (as far as having a truly reliable post scorer and defender), he's like Lee, a piece you use to build around a good team. Unfortunately, our core is suspect, but there's not much we should do about it until we have a new owner.
     
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    I think NY fans can say the same about Monta Ellis. The fact is, David Lee fills a desperate need. Monta Ellis does not.
     

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