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  1. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    But we need outside shooting maybe even more than perimeter defense. we've gotten rid of blake, outlaw, & webster. if we also get rid of rudy, we're hurting in that department. maybe Lorraine Bobbit will provide that.
     
  2. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    True but just like Milsap, the next 4 years will only be 6 million a year.....................Not too bad
     
  3. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Yeah, his deal will de-escalate (similar to Kirk Hinrich's contract).
     
  4. Tortimer

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    I think with the way this offer is with 9.2m the first year the Jazz have a good chance to not match. I think they would match a normal MLE offer for sure. They got the TPE from the Boozer sign n trade and want to use it but if they match Matthews they will be well over the luxury cap and won't be able to take on another big contract with the TPE. They also need front court help worse then keeping Matthews. Boozer is gone their center out for the first few months next year and AK leaving after next year.
     
  5. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Yep. Smart move by our non GM
     
  6. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Man, I'd forgotten all about Memo and his achilles ... Damn, yeah they're in a tough way with if they match this contract. On the flipside I think the Blazers just way overpaid for a second year backup shooting guard if they let him walk. The Jazz could be the ones with the last laugh here.
     
  7. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Look, you need to cut it out with this crap. How can people properly villify Paul Allen for firing KP if you keep cluttering up the argument with "facts" and stuff?
     
  8. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    More fun with facts coming soon


    Note for salary cap pedants: If $9.2M upfront payment to Matthews is correct, total for deal is only $32.7M, not $34M.
     
  9. Tortimer

    Tortimer Well-Known Member

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    Maybe but if you really want him that is our only chance of getting the Jazz not to match. What good is having all PA's money if he can't over pay for Matthews. It's not my money and maybe PA just looks at it like paying 3m for another draft pick with the luxury tax this year. The contract scales less after the first year so it isn't like it is a longterm luxury tax hit for PA.
     
  10. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    Lots of messages from jazz fans in the last hour on my phone. This one sums them up best. "will you at least take me out to dinner b4 you fuck me?"

    Not a lot of laughter right now.
     
  11. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    From Hollinger on twitter

    Random tought: Blazers with Matthews, Batum, Oden and Camby will be about 10,000 times better defensively than at midpoint of last season.
     
  12. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Hmm, you know he's not going to start at SG but SF could be interesting if Batum is packaged.
     
  13. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    That IS an interesting quote
     
  14. Masbee

    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    The Jazz must feel like we are stalking them at this point.

    "Please. Just leave us ALONE."
     
  15. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like there is more to the quote.
     
  16. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    1 year to the day that we offered the toxic contract to Milsap
     
  17. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That remains to be seen, but at this kind of money I'm guessing they expect WM to be able to play about 30 minutes a night covering the small forward and shooting guard spots. The "Starter" designation may not mean all that much.

    In any case whatever Nate/Buchanan/LM said to him they must have convinced him that he'd have a role of some significance.
     
  18. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    I think it's MUCH more likely that Matthews thinks he's a superior player to Batum, and that the Blazers have promised an open competition at the small forward starting spot.

    It wasn't clear that Batum was going to start ahead of Webster at the beginning of last year, and while we all like Batum and love his potential, I can see how Mattews and his representatives think Wes might start over Nic.

    Ed O.
     
  19. RoyToy

    RoyToy Clown Town

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    Money also talks.
     
  20. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Or finally moving Roy to the point?
     

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