Roy and Paul can they co-exist? Flounder or flourish?

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  1. BrianFromWA

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    why would he need to opt out if he's already playing with CP3 in Portland?
     
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    You're just getting greedy now. I'm also not sure that's a better lineup. Roy >>>>>>> Melo at closing out games. We should have tons of scoring with Roy/LMA/Oden set up by CP3 so the real question then is closing out close games. My money is on Roy over anyone in the league not named LeBron and Kobe. Hell I think Roy is better then LeBron at closing out games assuming LeBron could only take two steps like everyone else. Roy's a WAYYYY better shooter. LeBron >>>>>>>> Roy at everything except clutch shooting where Roy is a true god among men only really surpassed by Flowbee again this is in my extremely biased opinion.

    You have to try the Roy/CP3 back court first. If DEN was open to that trade it will still be there at the Trade Deadline if for some unfathomable reason Roy + CP3 isn't the chocolate and peanut butter back court we all know it is.
     
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    Cause he wants to play in NY (home)
     
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    Broussard just said that IF there is a trade, it will be to Por

    -via TV
     
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    his home is Baltimore. :)
     
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    While I agree Brandon is great in the clutch, you're wrong about him being better than LeBron in the clutch. James beats Roy in nearly every category of clutch play.

    http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM

    Lastly, with a lineup of (presumably) Paul/Matthews/Melo/LMA/Oden, how often do you think games would be close enough that you have to worry about clutch play? I'd say not very often, and if they are, CP3 (statistically speaking) is more clutch than Roy.
     
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    Yea, i thought it was NY cause he went to school at Syracuse
     
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    Easy mistake to make, and a lot of announcers do. But he grew up in Baltimore, and still does a bunch of his charity work there.
     
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    what's the rule on trades? If it's on TV, it's dead? :stirthepot:
     
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    WOW, Roy REALLY dropped off last year. The year before he was on par with Kobe and LeBron. Last season, especially the second half is kind of hazy at best, my Dad was dying from December to April so I missed most all of that.
     
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    Just checked and I was dead wrong. Wow, I SWORE I read some stat site showing they were very similar during 08/09. Damn. well I was dead wrong about that. Worse yet Anthony beats Roy in both situations. Hmm, why did I think that. Crap. Anyways fuck Melo'. :D
     
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    Silence!!!! I'm good for a few more today, but not if you ruin my favorite sports porn fantasy!!!
     
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    Back to the original topic....

    IMHO they would *founder* at first, but they would work it out eventually. I really want to believe Roy is not the kind of player who would sabotage the team for his own agenda.
     
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    Disagreed. Total flounder.

    flounder.jpg

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    I find it odd that some of the same peopole worried about Roy needing the ball seemingly don't have that concern with Anthony. Roy is roughly ~26% in usage, while Anthony was ~33% last year, and with less assists than Roy.

    Roy seems like a perfect compliment to Paul. People bitching about ISOs must not watch Denver play too often, and how they use Anthony on offense.
     
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    Agreed. I see no reason that CP3/Melo would be more effective than CP3/Roy.
     
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    I don't agree (for reals this time... no fish picture involved).

    Anthony and Roy are about the same level of value as players, but part of Roy's value comes from his ability to create for other people. On a team with CP, those opportunities are going to go down because Paul has the ball in his hands so much. Carmelo is basically only worth anything because of his ability to score, and that will not be impacted by Chris Paul.

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    Given the right opportunity, Roy could average in the high 20s. Plus, Anthony won't have the ball as much as he does in Denver, making him of less value due to his horrific defense. I'd rather have Bautm, or even Matthews, and keep Roy.
     
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    You might be right, but I still think that Anthony is a superior scorer to Roy and I would bet that most people would agree with me.

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