Sizing up the East

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Teams in no particular order. Depth charts from Yahoo! Sports.

    Celtics
    PG Rondo/Robinson
    SG Allen/Daniels
    SF Pierce/Gaffney
    PF Garnett/Harangody
    C O'Neil/Davis

    Nets
    PG Harris/Farmar
    SG Lee/Morrow
    SF Williams/Outlaw
    PF Favors/Boone
    C Lopes/Petro

    Knicks
    PG Felton/Douglas
    SG Walker/Azubuike
    SF Gallinari/Fields
    PF Randolph/Chandler
    C Amare/Turiaf

    76ers
    PG Holiday/Williams
    SG Turner/Green
    SF Iggy/Kopono
    PF Young/SMith
    C Brand/Speights

    Raptors
    PG Calderon/Jack
    SG Barbosa/Belinelli
    SF DeRozan/Kleiza
    PF Evans/Johnson
    C Bargnani/Dorsey

    Bulls
    PG Rose/Watson
    SG Brewer/Korver
    SF Deng/Johnson
    PF Boozer/Gibson
    C Noah/Thomas

    Cavs
    PG Williams/Gibson
    SG Parker/West
    SF Moon/Green
    PF Hickson/Jamison
    C Varejao/Powe

    Pistons
    PG Stuckey/Bynum
    SG Hamilton/Gordon
    SF Prince/Daye
    PF Villanueva/Wilcox
    C Wallace/Maxiel

    Pacers
    PG Ford/Price
    SG Jones/Rush
    SF Granger/Dunleavy
    PF Murphy/Hansbrough
    C Hibbert/Foster

    Bucks
    PG Jennings/Dooling
    SG Salmons/Delfino
    SF Maggette/Ilyasova
    PF Gooden/Mbah a Moute
    C Bogut/Brockman

    Hawks
    PG Bibby/Teague
    SG Johnson/Crawford
    SF Williams/Smith
    PF Smith/Evans
    C Horford/Pachulia

    Bobcats
    PG Augustin/Livingston
    SG Jackson/Carroll
    SF Wallace/McGuire
    PF Tyrus Thomas/Najera
    C Diop (Dampier/Muhammed)

    Heat
    PG Chalmers
    SG Wade/Miller
    SF LeBron/Butler
    PF Bosh/Haslem
    C Anthony/Ilgauskas

    Orlando
    PG Nelson/Duhon
    SG Carter/REdick
    SF Pietrus/QRich
    PF Lewis/Anderson
    C Howard/Gortat

    Wizards
    PG Wall/Hinrich
    SG Arenas/Hinrich
    SF Thornton/Young
    PF Blatche/Yi
    C McGee/Armstrong
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    The obvious elite:
    Miami, Boston, Orlando, Atlanta
    The next tier:
    Bulls, Bucks
    The next tier:
    Philly, Charlotte, Knicks (yes, they look pretty good on paper)
     
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    Boston's not obviously elite. They lost their best perimeter defender, the architect of their defense and got a year older. They also benefited from Lebron giving up midway through their playoff series. Atlanta's not elite yet either. I wouldn't even list them as contenders until they prove otherwise and they have a new coach and a new system to get used to. Orlando and Miami are the only two "elite" teams, and Orlando didn't do anything to improve after losing to an old Celtics team. I'm thinking they probably cave to the Heat the same way. Bulls, Bucks, Atlanta, and Boston are all right there together.
     
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    Did Perkins and Bradley get traded from the Celtics?
     
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    Yeah, Boston will miss Allen, but I'm not sure they are going to all of a sudden forget how to play defense now that T-squared is gone.

    Also, is it every team that got a year older, or just Boston?
     
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    Boston is the EC champions, lost in the finals. They have their big 3 intact along with Rondo. They lost Kendrick Perkins to injury (maybe he'll be back this year) and found a more than capable replacement in Jermaine O'Neil. O'Neil had an 18 PER last season and is a very good defender in his own right. 14/7 in 28 minutes vs. Perkins' 10/8 (15 PER) in 28 minutes. I wouldn't declare them "finished" or somehow in decline until otherwise proven.

    4 of the best 6 players on the Bulls & Hawks are on the Hawks (Johnson, Smith, Horford, Crawford, Rose, Boozer). Position by position, the only clear advantage is Rose at PG over Bibby.
     
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    Perkins is hurt, no? I guess Yahoo! figures him on the injured list.
     
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    The Nets must be in the God tier then.
     
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    I don't see the Nets contending for the 8th seed.
     
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    You and mostly everybody else. But we shall show you.
     
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    Pretty much ya.

    We could be fighting for the 4th spot with the Bucks and the Hawks. Yes I said the Bucks. They are very deep! Don't over look them. Bogut comes back and I am not counting on anything from redd! This team could be very good.

    I dont think the Knicks are there yet. Maybe 9th or 10th. I dont think they make the playoffs yet.

    I see Charlotte and Philly competing making the playoffs.
     
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    i would drop atlanta from elite to the next tier down with the bulls. then i would drop the bucks down a tier to being the last potentially relevant team and not worry about listing any more than those 6.
     
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    Way to make excuses for LeFail. How about you give Bostons' defense some credit ? They did a great job on Bryant and Howard, did they give up too ? No they didn't they have a great team defense. The big 4 is still intact, Rondo is only gonna get better which is pretty scary considering how good he is already. KG when healthy is still a top flight power forward, Pierce is still a top flight small forward, Ray Allen can still stroke it, he just had an off series against the Lakers. JO will give them some more scoring and rebounding inside, they will add more depth to their bench and they will be set.

    Boston is the tea, to beat in the East until proven otherwise.
     
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    He will be back mid-season
     
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    Orlando won 59 games last season, Atlanta 53 - good enough for 3rd best record in the East.
     
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    I'd put Bulls ahead of Atlanta.
     
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    I think Boston, Orlando, and Miami are the elite in the East. The Hawks and Bulls are next after that. If they have good seasons, they could join the top three. I'm skeptical of Milwaukee. Maybe I'm just not very familiar with their players. When I looked at their roster, the thing that struck me was how bereft it was of top-level talent. Brandon Jennings is really good, but I don't think he's put it all together yet. I'll believe Salmons can put together an entire season like he did for Milwaukee or us in '09 when I see it. Most everyone else on their roster looks like a role-player to me. (Albeit very good ones).

    I think Scott Skiles might be the best nothing-to-something coach in the NBA. It's his niche. I could be wrong, but I see them in the bottom half of the east, and a small chance that they won't make it altogether.
     
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    so why do they belong on the same tier? and the hawks got swept by the magic in the playoffs.
     
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    Orlando has more depth.
     
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    Anyone want to make the argument that Washington has a reasonable shot at making the playoffs?
     

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