The best trade you can come up with

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  1. shamelessblazer

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    except the nets of course.

    I do see where some of the pieces would fit though to be honest, but they would need some more potential at least going their way, that's for sure. I'm sure Miller would make Lopez much better though and help his career going forward. It seems the nets have plenty of shooting though w/Outlaw, Morrow, and Lee.

    Miller/Rudy/Pendergraph/(future pick?) for Harris might be more like it.

    I wouldn't mind getting back Lee (if Rudy and Bayless were gone), imagine our D with him, Batum, and Mathews. And Lee is more of a legit '3' than Mathews right? Or is that not true?
     
  2. BoomChakaLaka

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    This works at the espn trade machine

    Boston gets:
    R. Fernandez
    J. Pryzbilla
    J. Pendergraph

    San Antonio gets:
    A. Miller
    J. Bayless
    R. Wallace

    Portland gets:
    G. Davis
    T. Parker
     
  3. ehizzy3

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    ^ san antonio isnt getting enough there IMO
     
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    They risk losing Parker if they don't sign him, so they do this deal with the ability to cut Sheed, ask Sheed to retire and/ or use Sheed to trade his expiring contract sometime after December 15th. In all instances, it is a cap space manuever while picking up Bayless and Miller....and Miller also expires in a year. So while they don't get a major player in return, they are getting almost 14 million in cap space next year. It is a good rebuilding move should Duncan also look to retire.
     
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    Same goes for Boston. With the caveat that insurance will be paying for Pryzbilla. And who knows? What if Joel makes it back for a playoff run? Joel>Davis come playoff time for the Celtics. Then at the end of the season, they get cap space or a trading card in JPEC.
     
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    Parker / Johnson / Mills
    Roy / Matthews / Williams
    Batum / Cunningham / Babbitt
    Aldridge / Davis
    Oden / Camby

    We'd be playing the Lakers for the WCF
     
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    Sounds like Chicago wants to trade us James Johnson (16th pick in 2009) for Rudy. It also sounds like they just want to trade him in general. I know nothing about this guy. Anyone seen him play?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Johnson didn't play much last year so I doubt many people around here watched him play (myself included).

    Here's his draftexpress.com profile: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/James-Johnson-5053/playerblog/ which seems to suggest he could at least be a useful backup 3, but he's not exactly a great 3 point shooter which might make him a tough fit for a Nate McMillan coached team.

    At this point could he really be a worse option than keeping a disgruntled Rudy? I doubt it.
     
  9. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I remember being very interested in him prior to the draft because of his size; he could (in theory) match up physically with Lebron, and he has the skill set to play out on the perimeter. But in all reality, he is basically a carbon copy of Dante Cunningham--if you add 30 lbs and subtract some BBIQ. I'd like to think that we can do better, but I think I'd be deluding myself.
     
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    Well, I just posted in the other thread, so I won't bother to repost the link, but basically if you'll take JJ I'm certainly cool with it as a Bulls fan.

    The other problem is that you can't take back his salary without giving up Cunningham or Pendergraph too.

    Also, I see no real logic to taking on JJ's $1.7M (or really, anyone) for Rudy. You guys are pretty stacked depth wise as most every position. So whomever you get back is pretty unlikely to play much. Given that fact, why take back a guy who's going to get paid a bunch of money. If you take a future #1, it could turn out to be a useful player, and it's also one that causes no problems now.
     
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    I'd take JJ witha pick, but as you mentioned, it doesn't work financially. And I don't like having to add someone in for him. Seems to be a similar problm with the three teams we are talking to. Gibson is about the only $$ fit on Chicago. Avery bradley on Boston. And Walker and Douglas on NY. I see no reason to add anyone from there except Gibson, and I am pretty sure Chicago says no to that. So it goes to adding mroe in, or picks. Chicago has a future first from Charlotte. It is protected top 14 in 2012, top 12 in 2013, top 10 in 2014, top 8 in 2015, unprotected in 2016. So either they make the playoffs, and we end up with a mediocre pick in 2012, or we don't see an actual lotto pick for a long time. Well, decent lotto, anyways. I guess it's better than nothing, but it'd certainly feel like nothing.

    Knicks pick is worthless. Won't see that one until 2013 at the earliest. Unless they can trade Houston's pick if Houston swaps with them.

    Boston's pick is similar. Likely a pick in the 20s. At least with their pick, we can hope like hell for injuries to Pierce and Rondo and Garnett, and watch it slip into the lottery. More reason to root against Boston. Yuck.
     
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    Personally, I think the Blazers should tell Rudy's agent that if Rudy is starter quality as he purports, then find us a starter or lottery pick for him.
     
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    Wouldn't that be tampering? Oh right it only matters if a Superstar is coming to Portland. Got it.
     
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    Where would there be tampering in that?
     
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    That's about what I get to. I don't see any player based deals that help, so you're better of choosing from the best of whatever future picks might be offered. Not a sexy deal, but at the same time, it's the sort of deal that netted Rudy in the first place.
     
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    Agent talking to other teams about trades. I guess he would have permission so never mind. That memo yesterday really has me fuming.
     
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    I watched James Johnson play in Summer League.

    Trust me, we don't want him.
     
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    Well, he said "Personally, I think the Blazers should tell Rudy's agent that if Rudy is starter quality as he purports, then find us a starter or lottery pick for him."

    Sounds like in his scenario, the agent is getting direction and permission from the Blazers to look for that trade. No conspiracy. No Stern allowing tampering. There is no tampering in that situation.
     
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    I'd only take him with a pick but, seriously, Summer League?
     
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    Rudy for Omer Asik works for me. He was our draft pick anyway, and he's really good.

    [video=youtube;kcvtM8JqlnY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcvtM8JqlnY[/video]
     

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