I had to read that part a couple of times myself. I think she's referring to the Mormon author, I might be wrong. Was that when those Blackwater Mercs were killed? Kind of hard to call them civilians and non-state actor suicide bombers "terrorists" and not civilians. It's all such a clusterfuck over there but of course Obushma is just continuing to follow orders from the same string pullers Bush took his marching orders from. Sad that people still buy into the false dichotomy of Democrat vs. Republican. I still can't believe this thread isn't in the OT: Forum!!!
My head has exploded. I would point to an OT thread where jlprk unaccountably accused me of being a law and order right-winger, surely a first. And said this is what women tend to be so women should not participate in political discussion. Not an exact quote but the gist of it. I protested the Iraq war before the US even arrived there, now I am prowar? And was asking ESPN to ferret out antiwar protesters? Criticized Iraqis for not following Geneva? The kindest thing I can say is jlprk is confusing me with someone else. Or else he's flat out delusional. I also explicitly said that those who used the excuse of injustice in the Meserle verdict to break windows and rob stores were not "anarchists". I don't recall using the word cowboy. And I did not say jlprk defended Bryant. I was speaking generally, that a man who is talented somehow in a lot of people's minds (like the otherwise sensible Whoopi Goldberg) gets a pass for rape. I also did not say feminists generally were not excited about Hillary Clinton; clearly a lot of feminists were. I have said I am not a Democrat and did not vote for either Clinton or Obama. I supported socialist candidates because I'd rather vote for what I want and not get it than vote for what I don't want, like continuing the Afghan war. Others disagree with me, which is fine, but don't put views on me I never held or stated. Notice no links to my alleged crimes. Now that jlprk has attempted, I hope unsuccessfully, to make the discussion about me, or rather about some imaginary pro-war anti-feminist law and order right winger he says is me, can we simply agree to be relieved that Ruben Patterson is no longer the Blazers', or their fans', problem?
Didn't know that. I was mostly responding to the idea (not yours) that a Mercenary armed to the teeth and in body armor can be called a civilian. I've agreed with you from word go about Ruben for what it's worth.
I'll just stick in my answers. I can't have 50 little quote windows. Capitals don't mean I'm shouting, they just differentiate my answers. -------------- I would point to an OT thread where jlprk unaccountably accused me of being a law and order right-winger, surely a first. YOU ARE PRETTY CONSERVATIVE, WHETHER OR NOT YOU REALIZE IT. And said this is what women tend to be so women should not participate in political discussion. Not an exact quote but the gist of it. NOT THE GIST AT ALL. AFTER YOU LABELED STREET ACTION AS COWBOY BEHAVIOR, I SIMPLY NOTED THAT BEFORE WOMEN TOOK OVER THE LEFT, IT WAS AGGRESSIVE, AND IS MUCH WEAKER NOW BECAUSE OF WEAK BELIEFS LIKE YOUR SAYING THAT STRONG ACTION IS COWBOY BEHAVIOR. I protested the Iraq war before the US even arrived there, now I am prowar? YOU NEVER POSTED SUCH AT THE OUTBREAK. YOU FOUND THINGS TO CRITICIZE WITH IRAQI BEHAVIOR BUT NOT AMERICAN. And was asking ESPN to ferret out antiwar protesters? NO, I SAID THAT OTHERS STARTED THREADS FOR THAT, NOT YOU. GET THE DETAILS RIGHT. Criticized Iraqis for not following Geneva? THAT WAS THE ONLY IRAQ POST YOU MADE BACK THEN TO WHICH I RESPONDED. The kindest thing I can say is jlprk is confusing me with someone else. Or else he's flat out delusional. THAT ONE POST WAS YOU. I also explicitly said that those who used the excuse of injustice in the Meserle verdict to break windows and rob stores were not "anarchists". I don't recall using the word cowboy. LOOK AT IT. IT'S THERE. And I did not say jlprk defended Bryant. I was speaking generally, that a man who is talented somehow in a lot of people's minds (like the otherwise sensible Whoopi Goldberg) gets a pass for rape. IT'S IN A QUOTE WINDOW IN MY POST ABOVE. I also did not say feminists generally were not excited about Hillary Clinton; clearly a lot of feminists were. I have said I am not a Democrat and did not vote for either Clinton or Obama. I supported socialist candidates because I'd rather vote for what I want and not get it than vote for what I don't want, like continuing the Afghan war. Others disagree with me, which is fine, but don't put views on me I never held or stated. Notice no links to my alleged crimes. IT'S NOT A CRIME. AFTER YOU SAID I OPPOSE WOMEN HAVING POLITICAL OPINIONS, I SIMPLY NOTED THAT I POSTED A FEW TIMES FOR HILLARY OVER OBAMA, AND WHEN I ASKED YOU BACK THEN WHY YOU DIDN'T, YOU SAID YOU WERE UNEXCITED ABOUT HER. Now that jlprk has attempted, I hope unsuccessfully, to make the discussion about me, or rather about some imaginary pro-war anti-feminist law and order right winger he says is me, can we simply agree to be relieved that Ruben Patterson is no longer the Blazers', or their fans', problem? YOU WERE THE ONE WHO GOT PERSONAL, FORCING ME TO DO THE SAME. AD HOMINEN ATTACKS ALWAYS HAVE THAT RESULT. YES, I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF DROPPING THE PERSONAL STUFF, IN FACT THE WHOLE THREAD. ------------ Putting that in capital letters makes it look like I'm shouting, but it was just to differentiate my comments from yours. Look, you can't be all bad if you think you think you're a socialist. But your posts don't reflect that self-concept. If I try to see you sympathetically, the formulation would be--maybe you're not a hypocrite, maybe you're just too paranoid to argue for what you say you are.
I guess that's why you have repeatedly over the years posted that Ruben was convicted ofraping his nanny, even though you know that to be a lie. He has never even been charged with rape. He was a black man in Seattle facing a racist police force, a racist press, a racist populace, and nearly certain lengthy jail sentence and years away from his family and career. So his lawyer advised him to cut a deal, which he did. The evidence was weak, the nanny unbelievable, so the DA accepted. The Lake Oswego police who investigated the spousal abuse charge said it was a clear case of self-defense and defense of his children as his wife was throwing plates at him and was violently out of control. An officer at the scene said Ruben's locking her in a closet was "prudent".
Fucking Christ on a crutch! If you two jerks have to play stupid me-too games could you please show enough class or decency or basic humanity to NOT do so on a thread discussing the sexual assault of a young woman? Thank you.
