Would you trade LMA for Kevin Love. . .

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Another thing, I bet if you asked STAT, Dirk or Bosh who they would rather face, I bet they'd say Love! LA is way more of a challenge to them on both ends!
     
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    STOMPY boy? Good grief still with the same name calling from 5 years ago... are you going to compare me to your sister again next? My point was this subject has already been beaten to death. We've all weighed in several times now... it's funny that you would complain about redundancy when thats exactly what you're doing

    to answer your bolded question, there hasn't been anyone I've touted that turned out to be a flop from a talent standpoint. I guess one could argue Greg, but thats been on injuries.

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  3. Cake

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    That's fucking ridiculous and you know it. The only time that argument holds water is if one player gets 5 minutes of garbage time and the other is starting and getting 40 minutes...but that's not the case here. (PS - I've already made a better point than you did.)

    By the way, Love averaged 11 rebounds PER GAME and Aldridge, 8. That's bad.
     
  4. HailBlazers

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    By The Way, Minnesota won 15 games last year. That's bad. Player Stat comparisons hold no water when comparing apples (15 win teams) to oranges (50 win teams). The competition is vastly different. No teams get pumped up to go into Minne Sota! The Rose Garden OTOH, is as competitive as it gets
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    So players like Devin Harris, Brook Lopez and Andre Iguodala all suck?
     
  6. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Lopez was the first guy I thought of here, too. Clearly the people who laud him as a future multiple-time all-star are way off. He's really no better than Kendrick Perkins--their WS/48 are almost identical!
     
  7. Mediocre Man

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    Tyreke Evans is another guy people must be really overrating. There was another guy a couple of years ago that played on a shitty team, but still put up good numbers. His name was Brandon something.....I think he is related to Patrick Roy, but I'm not sure. Maybe The Rockets were stupid to hand on to a young Moses Malone because they only won 20 something games when he was young also?
     
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    Once again this takes me back to the early 1990's when fans on the radio were obsessed with Duckworth's "low" rebounding numbers. Even though the Blazers lead the league in every rebounding category. My point is there are lot of factors to consider. How many of Love rebounds are his own missed shots? Or his teammates low shooting percentage? Is Love camped out under the basket, or does he have other responsibilties out on the perimeter.

    I don't know the answers to these questions nor do i give a rats ass. I just know I would rather have LMA over Love when Greg Oden is on the floor. Both offensively and defensively
     
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    So you'd rather have Aldridge on the floor for 27.3 games a year. What about the other 2/3 of the season?
     
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    is Pryz on the floor? Then still LMA
     
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    Aldridge is a below average rebounder. Anyone who pays attention to him and rebounding can see that. He is also a below average defender.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    LMA's combine numbers and his 7'5" wingspan give him all the physical tools to be a very good rebounder, he just not there mentally. Like Barkley said, you either have 'it' or you don't. LMA doesn't.
     
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    I am happy with 7-8 rebounds a game from LMA if Greg/Pryz/Camby are getting their minutes. Rebounding is not my main concern with this team.
     
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    I think their offensive games are largely similar. The main difference is that Love is a much better rebounder and, in my opinion, Aldridge is a much better defender. I think Aldridge is a superior fit, because there are diminishing returns on rebounding (you're limited by the total number of rebounds available) and Portland has rebounding beasts in Oden and Camby (and even Przybilla if he ever makes it back to previous levels) but more (better) defense from other positions is always valuable.

    I can understand the view that Love would be a superior value, since he's cheaper. I think Portland is a better, albeit more expensive, team with Aldridge, so I'd stick with him.
     
  15. MickZagger

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    Thats right. I'm a name caller!

    I seriously don't remember these threads about this topic that your talking about. Considering there's 4 pages worth of discussion, I don't think the topic has been beaten to death. If you want to attack someone for redundancy why don't you aim your efforts at the thousands of tweets, blogs ect. from random sources that say were trading Rudy to Chicago.

    I find it hard to believe that whatever prospect you tout turns to gold. Then again I've never really seen you with really strong opinions on a prospect. Which is probably the safe route.
     
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    Well, there are two sides to the court.

    Lopez is an up-and-coming young big, who has yet to learn all the little tricks and ways of winning ball games. He is known for his offensive talents. No one accuses him of being a good defender.

    Kendrick Perkins, on the other hand, is not a good offensive player. He is, however a vet who has learned what to do in a complimentary role to help his team win games, and he is one of the top post defenders.

    Why would you be surprised their WS are identical. One contributes mostly on side of the court, the other mostly on the other side of the court.
     
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    Funny how it is. Who is the better rebounder and Outlet passer? Love. Who is the better pass recipient and finisher? Aldridge. Put them together into one player, and you would have everything you want in a PF.
     
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    At least in the case of Harris and Iguodala, we had the opportunity to see them play when their teams were at least competitive. We haven't had that opportunity with Love. He's always played against the other teams' half-assed efforts.
     
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    How would you all respond to a thread reporting that we traded LA for Love straight up?
     

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