USA vs France, Sunday Aug. 15

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  1. RoyToy

    RoyToy Clown Town

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    I'd like to know where those posts are because I've never seen them.
     
  2. RoyToy

    RoyToy Clown Town

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    And I'm sure the answer would be he just came off a serious injury. He did come back like at least a month early I believe.
     
  3. RiseWithDE

    RiseWithDE Living Legend

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    So people are either lukewarm about him or very unimpressed?

    Sounds like someone we need to keep around for another 5 years.
     
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    I don't know what "we" forgot. i apologize for not giving more examples such as a motion offense, off-the-ball skills, etc. I figured I would give you a few examples of ways he could be utilized to help jog your memory since you were dodging my question.

    I'd love for him to be a Kidd/Durant/Boozer hybrid, that'd be awesome! I'm not sure why you trying to take the angle that he doesn't' warrant more touches, because I think he does, I never said he didn't. You seem kinda defensive about the issue.

    So far I've asked a simple question and got two separate responses, neither of which were answers to my question, so I think I understand what that means.

    Anyway, I love Batum and the Blazers, so I hope he has a great year. Cheers!
     
  5. RiseWithDE

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    Well, help me with some logic here. Do you think that warranting more touches and being underutilized go hand in hand? Did you not just answer your own question? And if so, didn't I just answer your question a few times since I said the same thing?

    I think you're dodging the answer. Cheers back at ya.
     
  6. RoyToy

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    Problem is you can't guarantee just because you fire Nate you'll end up with a better coach. After about 6-7 coaches in the league there's not really an upgrade out there, and those 6-7 coaches aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
     
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    I think Batum has grown from his first summer league, to his rookie season, to last years campaign. I think he'll continue to grow next year and turn into a very nice player. I don't think he's been put in a bad position to be forced to do more than he's ready for nor do I think his growth is being put in front of the growth of the team. I'm quite happy with Nic and Nate.
     
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    I disagree. Surprising, I know :).

    I think it has more to do with the right coach for the right team than anything else. Nate was brought in because we had a bunch of knuckleheads, and needed a strong figure as head coach. Now, this team needs someone who has a better grasp on offensive and defensive strategies.

    There are a lot of examples of coaches getting with the right team at the right time. I think that's what this team needs.
     
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    What available coach do you think would be the right fit here?
     
  10. RiseWithDE

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    Mike Budenholzer, San Antonio Spurs

    To get a sense of how successful Budenholzer has been as an assistant coach, just know that he came into San Antonio the same year Greg Popovich did. All those rings Pop's got, Budenholzer's got, too.

    Budenholzer is an offensive guy, known especially for running offenses in the last two minutes of a quarter. He makes his rounds to summer camps and training sessions working on a number of things, but as the heir apparent to the San Antonio Spurs' coaching throne there's no question where he sits in the hierarchy of the league's top assistants.

    Elston Turner, Houston: Other than the Utah Jazz’s Phil Johnson and Jerry Sloan and the San Antonio Spurs’ Mike Budenholzer and Gregg Popovich, there may not be a more solid relationship between a head coach and his top lieutenant than the one between Houston Rockets head coach Rick Adelman and Turner. They have been together for the past three years in Houston and for six years before that in Sacramento. Turner also was an assistant for four years in Portland. He nearly got the Phoenix Suns job two years ago instead of Terry Porter and was a finalist last summer for the Minnesota Timberwolves job that went to Kurt Rambis. He turned 50 last June and appears more than ready for his first head-coaching job.

    Is this the straw men you're looking for?
     
  11. RiseWithDE

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    JVG and TP would do well with these players too.
     
  12. Mediocre Man

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    I am not trying to make this sound pissy, but since I don't know every single coach out there, it is hard to say. I will say this though.

    The type of coach this team needs now, IMO, is someone who has had success in the playoffs. Someone who is a "players coach." Someone who is more imaginative on both offense and defense. Someone with a lot of fire (when needed) on the sidelines.
     
  13. RiseWithDE

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    I'm sure these guys were OK with Cho, and didn't need a s2 approved list before it was a good idea.
     
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    Either of the VG's would be great.

    Porter has always been a sentimental choice for me, but I'm not sure he is a guy that could get us to the next level. Certainly not worse than Nate though....IMO.

    If we are looking to go assistant, Budenholzer is easily my first choice, and I think Monte Williams would have been very good as well.
     
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    Has Batum been playing any pg? I know he did last summer when Tony Parker got hurt. Batum can't play pg in the NBA but I'd like to see him initiate the offense from time to time.
     
  16. MickZagger

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    Then you like to over-exaggerate.
     
  17. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I don't know, but I'm sure he will. Parker is out, Pietrus is out, and Beaubois broke his foot, so I'm not sure who else they have that you'd want to put the ball in their hands?
     
  18. MickZagger

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    They have more options on the roster than just players who are playing in the NBA.
     
  19. gatorpops

    gatorpops Allen Crabb hits winning shot on Nov24 vs Blazers

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    France is playing Canada at 4pm our time today. Is there any way to follow the game that anyone knows?
     
  20. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Yes, some.

    But Batum played some point-forward for France last summer (and did well), so it only stands to reason he'll handle the ball again.
     

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