OT: Kevin Love is beastin'

Love is a great player, the only real downside to his game is his defense. LMA isn't the greatest of defenders but he is better then love has a bigger upside then Love on the defensive end. Offensively Love's game isn't anywhere near as polished as LMA but as least Love shows some love for the paint. Love beats LMA in two aspects and thats rebounding/passing.
If I were a GM and it was draft day i'd take LMA over love in a heartbeat. At the moment because of contract differences and I was on a team that was money conscience i'd take Love.

 

I've watched these two players extensively, and it's not really a contest. Lamarcus, for all of his faults, is a superior player in nearly every regard except for rebounding (and passing, although LMA is an excellent passer as well).

Post up these two guys on the block, and LMA is offensively superior. Spin moves, an unblockable fadeaway, up and unders, hook shots, etc etc.... his offensive repertoire is dizzying, and I think we take it for granted sometimes.

I've watched a lot of Love, and that same ability just isn't there. He's a good shooter, knows how to pick his spots, but the talent is lacking, and the athleticism is lacking. He's never going to fast or strong enough to bang against all star centers. He's pretty slow, and he simply doesn't have the athleticism to power over and dominate guys like Dwight Howard and other all-star bigs.

Then there's defense. LMA, while being a poor defensive rebounder, is an excellent on-ball defender, and even when he gets switched on picks, can do a decent job against guards. His long arms, quick feet, and ability to move around on the floor quickly and gracefully is an asset on D and allows for him to roam around and contest a variety of different shots. He's not a dominating power defender who's going to rack up the blocks, but his massive wingspan allows for him to cover and contest most SF's and PF's extremely well.

Love is pathetic on defense. He's slow and I've watched him consistently get beat to the spot by his man. He hits the boards hard, but he simply doesn't have the power or the athletic ability to defend elite level big men in the league.

They're both good players in the NBA, but you've got to be joking if you think Love is actually a better player overall. There's things he does well, but let's be honest here...

 

Love wasn't doubled? Are you sure about that because when I saw their games on league pass he was doubled a lot. LMA on the other hand was not doubled at all when he had the ball up top.....which was most of the time.


LMA is good, but Love is better. LMA is a slightly better defender though.

 

Not meaningless, just simply not comparable to that of a player on a vastly superior team who faces much tougher opponents Every Night.

 

Sure is. The sun is slightly bigger than an orange, too.

 

Despite playing 10 MPG Kevin leads team USA in every rebounding category.

LMA is an average at best defender. Their DRtg's aren't too far apart, either.

 

You know who is ACTUALLY beasting? Totally carrying his team, scoring at will, despite being constantly double and triple teamed? This guy.

He already has the tournament MVP pretty much wrapped up.

And yes, I would trade LMA for him. But if we offered, I'm pretty sure they'd turn it down (especially since he pretty much owned Aldridge in that playoff series).

Kevin Love should be on the Suns or the Knicks. His standout skill is outlet passes, so he'd be wasted on a team like ours (especially one that sets a premium on defense).

 

After seeing Oden dominate Love on the boards (and on the offensive side as well) and make him look like a high schooler at the US Team's tryouts in 2009, I knew having a 100% healthy Oden on our roster pretty much makes Love irrelevent next to him. As long as Oden is healthy and gives us 70+ games, I'd just as well have Aldridge for his offense and let Oden dominate the paint as he does best.

 

Love certainly wasn't doubled by the Trail Blazers during any of their blowouts of the Wolves - and likely not by any team with a big man either. You've got to be kidding with this Love being better nonsense. There's also something to the low minutes he gets - you think his defense is bad when he's rested, let's see it after racing up and down the court for 30 minutes (whereas LMA is still able to beat everyone down the court, see the game at Milwaukee).

 

Scola is very good, I like his game a lot. He's also 30 years old. There is probably some tread left on his tires, but time isn't on his side in that comparison. Just sayin'

STOMP

 

Who the fuck thinks LaMarcus is a good defender? I'm sorry but that is ridiculous.

 

I certainly don't.

Sure he's light on his feet and can defend the perimeter well for a big man, but thats kind of a pointless skill. Down on the blocks he gets used and abused.

 

He's a very good team defender, struggles in man defense against stronger power forwards. He also has very good defensive versatility when defensive switches happen.

Overall, I'd say he's solidly above average taking everything into account. He's below average against bruising power forwards. The Karl Malone types of power forwards will abuse Aldridge, the Duncan types won't (which is not the same as saying Aldridge would shut down the Duncan types of power forwards).

 

I don't think I agree that he is a very good team defender.

 

I don't think that I think that LMA actually think's he's a good defender. What do you think? Oh wait I don't care. You shouldn't always trust your thoughts. 0:27

 

I was aware of that.

No, sixty is "way way older" than Love. 30 is just significantly older.

Doubt away. I, in turn, doubt that Love will ever be as good as Scola (except in rebounding, at which he is already better). Scola is Kevin McHale-esque on offense. If you could become that just by getting older...

 

He's not necessarily a good defender, just a fuck of a lot better than Love.

 

I think it's funny all the conspiracy theories around Kevin Love. He's so fucking AWESOME, and yet he doesn't get many minutes! It must be that they're SAVING HIM UP to spring as a SURPRISE WEAPON on the unsuspecting opposing teams when it counts! It CAN'T be that Coach K actually thinks that Lamar Odom is more useful!