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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    The pivotal piece in the rule in includes something earlier describing the general context of the rule (aggressive gesture) and this give an example of previous "aggressive gestures" that have been made by NBA players that would fall under this rule.

    Remember that all rules of an underlying premise or "spirit" that they are intended to uphold. In reading the underlying intention of this particular rule that the violation falls under, it is obviously a player who is showing up an official by making an aggressive "air punch" after a call against said player or a non-call on a missed shot. Those are clearly being isolated in the description since we've all seen the players that get called for a foul and arch their backs and punch the air and shake their heads in frustration on the call. That is an obvious disrespect of the person in authority to uphold the rules, and has absolutely nothing to do with a "fist pump" celebrating a good play by a teammate.
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    They have no place in a game with consistent officiating. That game is not the NBA.

    Really, the only officiating that doesn't drive me crazy is the NFL, for some reason. Yeah, I think some calls are terrible...that's to be expected. But I get much less sense that some players are playing by different rules.

    Also, if these rules were adopted by the NFL, it would be the end of Peyton Manning's career. ;)
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    Players being asked to stop demonstrably complaining after every. single. call. and being held accountable for it.

    Sign me up. Good job, Stern. I'm on board this train.
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    Well put.

    I would be absolutely fine with this, even applaud it, if I believed it would be applied equally and fairly in Stern's NBA. I don't.
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    Over-reaction much?

    To me, I read it as Stern giving permission to give T's for those offenses. It doesn't mean that the refs have to follow it to T. The less whining to the refs aloud the less political the game is and I think it takes away from the superstar advantage.
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    And now they're lying about having done "market research..."

    Stu Jackass ruined the Knicks as Head Coach. Fascist Stern liked him so he got him hired as GM for Vancouver. Jackass ruined that team so badly that they sneaked out of town. Fascist Stern liked him so he hired him as League Enforcer, mainly to harass Sheed on the Blazers with outlandish fines.

    When Fascist Stern dies in a painful fire, melting like the Wicked Witch holding his plastic basketball, let's remind the troops to include Stu Jackass in the immolation, or there will be no revolution.
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    I couldn't disagree more. I fear all these new rules do is put more control in the referee's hands over the outcome of any given game. Also, if you honestly think superstars are going to be T'ed up for the same things as other players, you must think they are currently called for fouls the same way as other players.
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    Thats if you think referees care about controlling the outcome of a game. I don't think David Stern is some Vince McMahon clone like most around here.
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    I don't think they care about who wins or loses as much as say, oh...covering the point spread.
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    Do you believe in UFO's and Bigfoot as well?
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    Lol.

    Because UFO's and Bigfoot have both been found guilty and served time like Donaghy. I get what you are saying, but as you think it's paranoia, I think it's naive to think Donaghy is the only referee to bet on games.
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    Couldn't find it on youtube, but you do know Mike Rice was ejected from a game as a broadcaster - for raising his hands (in disgust).

     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    I don't let isolated incidents taint my opinion of the league.

    If you think the league is phony-baloni and the refs control the outcomes, why do you even bother watching?
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    I still don't understand this mindset. If they created a new rule that said players with black shoes will be ejected immediately after the tipoff if the step on the floor with a black shoe. Do you think the refs could somehow influence the game more by choosing when to enforce that? Do they choose to ignore Kobe and Wade's black shoes all game long and then eject Adam Morrison when he comes in with his on?

    There's no discretion here with these rules. You either slap your arm or you don't. You either walk towards a ref with your palms up or you walk back up the court. You either come at a ref jawing about a no-call or you walk away. How can Kobe walk at a ref and complain without this immediately taking effect and blowing the whistle? It can't any more than wearing black shoes in my earlier example.

    And how does this not affect the superstars? The only guys that try and pull this off are all-stars. When's the last time Adam Morrison drove to the basket and ran at a ref complaining? Can anyone find even one Youtube of a non-allstar that complained about a non-call for a foul?
     
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    Re: WTF?! Stern trying to remove emotion from games

    Some of you say you like this evil as long as it's applied equally, e.g. to superstars and coaches as much as to ordinary players.

    Okay, sure, and how about fans? To be consistent, how about giving the boot to any fan who makes a fist pump, or raises his arms after a call?

    To be really consistent about our war with human nature, how about on message boards? I have heard that once upon a time on BBB, they discouraged any non-childlike emotions. Or is this a case of, crack down on others but not on yourself?
     
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