So she and several of the witnesses disagree. Maybe the students and faculty are all out to get her because she's a Christian. Yeah, that's believable. Georgia is really hostile territory to Christians? That's why you fled? barfo
I'm in favor of having the appropriate number of counselors who can deal with gay peoples' issues as needed. Sheesh.
If the counselors advertise "specializing in gay's and lesbian's issues" then they should be advertising "specializing in christians'" issues. The qualifications for one may not be the same as for the other.
This assumes that Christians have needs so specialized that there's a call for such counselors. Homosexuals are a somewhat persecuted minority; Christians aren't. While that doesn't prove conclusively that one might need specialized counselors and the other wouldn't, there is a pretty significant difference between the two groups, so it's not clear, a priori, that both groups need the same attention.
There are specialized Christian Counseling programs offered that give you a Masters specifically in that topic. I never was interested in them, so I don't know much about it, but I would guess that it is some sort of a hybrid between a typical counseling program and a degree in ministry. I'm not sure if there is one for counseling homosexual clients or if there is a certificate program.
To me, it's just unfortunate that she won't be able to attend a more affordable state institution due to their seemingly intolerant stance(s) regarding her personal convictions. Ahh, well........
They're being intollerant of an intollerant stance that leads them to believe that she is not capable of fulfilling the ethical responsibilities of the job. I'm cool with that. If they were just booting Christians from the program, that would be an issue. This is not.
And because there are gay bars, there should be Christian bars? I'd think it would be up to individual counselors how they advertise their services. If someone thinks it would be advantageous to them to advertise as specializing in Christians, I imagine they'd do that. But the topic is school counselors here, not rent-a-counselors. barfo
Which is one, unless that one is Ms. Keeton. Are you advocating hiring an additional public employee to make up for her deficiencies? barfo
Actually, its not necessarily one. I got my masters in counseling to continue onward in the Higher Education field, but had I gone into counseling, I wouldn't be capable from day one of working with the LGBT population despite being more aware of and understanding of the issues than some of my classmates. Any group with specialized needs would require specific training and experience of a counselor before they could list it as a specialization when advertising their services. A good generalist could help them out just fine, but a good generalist would also know when to refer them on to a specialist in that area. Given the constraints on the school environment, a good generalist is probably a best case scenario, so hopefully they could link up with local counseling providers to bridge some of the gaps involved.
It is very fitting that a hate group like the KKK supports this cause. Hopefully this makes anyone believing that homosexuality is a choice rethink that stance.
You know, it isn't really that complicated. If she wants to be a counselor in private practice, she can serve whoever she wants. If she wants to be a *school* counselor, part of the job description is the willingness/ability to deal with everybody. Either this women is too dumb to grasp that distinction, or she is a fraud and a troll trying to stir up controversy.
Again, please give me an example of a potentially real-life situation whereas her personal convictions would preclude her from doing an effective job. Provided, of course, that she acted professionally. For the umpteenth time, I believe these ASU folks are making far too many assumptions that Ms. Keeton won't have what it takes to be an adequate counselor. But, really, is the gay/lesbian piece really that much of an issue in our schools....whereas a counselor has to be keenly insightful in order to handle correctly? I get that Ms. Keeton has these deep, personal convictions. What I don't get is that she's being prematurely discriminated against.
I can't do what you're asking because the ASU faculty are suggesting that she's not capable of acting in a professional ethical manner as prescribed by the ACA Code of Ethics. Their entire implication is that she would tell homosexual clients that they are wrong for being homosexual and that she views it as a disordered lifestyle that needs fixing. ASU's case is that Ms. Keeton would have a client come out to her and that she would attempt to make them change.
For the umpteenth time: Deep personal convictions that are scientifically wrong and the world can do without.
Then, that would constitute unprofessionalism on Ms. Keeton's part. Hence, the lawsuit.................which she'll lose, BTW. Whatever.
It kills me that christians are claiming the high road on this one. The university is merely asking her to not discriminate against a huge population.
