I don't think it is in the best interest of any party. Unless Greg thinks he will end up playing only a few games this season he has to stick it out and wait. I'm sure Blazers would consider signing him right now to something like $7M/year, but G.O. probably wants to see what he is really worth. I'm sure he is optimistic about his chances--whether it is rational or not.
Yeah i read the quote from his agent. Everyone is OK with waiting. I'm not. I say gamble and sign him. $45 million for 5 years. Roll the dice.
There is no chance to take. The difference between paying him now and paying him later, is at worse a few million a year. A few million a year I would gladly have tacked on to the Blazers salary cap to ensure they are signing a healthy player rather than hamstringing the club for the next 5 years.
At worse a few? I disagree. If he's healthy for 55 games at the end of this season, and plays like he has when healthy, guaranteed someone is offering him a max deal. If you could somehow get him for the deal pinwheel mentioned, versus a max deal, that's a significant difference. A risk? Sure. I'd take it, just the same.
That seems pretty pragmatic. Plus, I can't see in any way how Oden might "hold it against" the Blazers for taking the cautious approach. Especially if his agent is cool with all that.
Possible, but the idea of a toxic offer somehow effecting what Paul Allen will do (to match or not match) I think is slim.
My concern is the new CBA. It could help, hurt or make no difference to the team holding a player's rights. We don't know yet. But it still makes me nervous if there is a lock out next year, and Greg only ends up having a year (instead of 2 years)to wait until he is a FA. A free agent under a hard CAP! Unlikely yes, but none-the-less possible.
That's nice. We disagree. I don't think anybody would offer him a max contract if he averaged 20-10 fo 60 games.
20-10 for 60 games this season,a nd you don't think someone offers him the max? A what, 22 year old, 23? I'd say he'd have his choice of who he wanted it from from a few teams.
He's going to be a restricted free agent, get over it. And if he somehow manges to appear in 60 games, he'll probably be inline for something just south of Andrew Bynum money ... whatever "Andrew Bynum" money is equal to in the next CBA
No reason to extend him now. Wait until the offseason, see what contracts he gets, and then figure it out. I don't see how he could be pissed if we don't extend him now. The guy has barely played.
I agree, I heard a quote from the agent that they wouldn't even be asking management about an extension as it is obvious for someone that even missed his entire first year, most players would have at least had that season under their belts before talking "worth", as where it was almost like a "red shirt" year for Oden. So you wouldn't know his worth until you see what you get out of him this season (which is when most teams would know what they're getting out of their rookies by re-signing time). I'm assuming it would be identical to Blake Griffin. You won't see the Clips even mention re-signing him, even if he plays uninjured from here on out. He missed a year and the business practice is to wait until you've seen a player play out that normal tenure of time before you re-sign.
My only concern about not signing him to an extension now is the unknown impacts that the future CBA may have on the Blazers' ability to match a full priced offer, especially if a team decided to follow the Blazers' lead and incorporate a toxic front-loaded deal like Mathews' and Millsap's. We're going to have to trust that Cho has a good handle on this because we have no way of knowing what the impacts may be.
If Blake Griffin stays mostly healthy from here on out, you can bet your life he'll get a max deal. The only way he wouldn't would be because of Sterling being a terrible owner or if he had a string of Greg Oden-like season enders over the next 2 years.
