Microfracture for Oden

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  1. RoyToy

    RoyToy Clown Town

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    I bolded that part of your post because I heard an interesting take on the 2007 draft today.

    To keep it short, Paul Allen wanted Greg Oden. We all say Pritchard/McMillan/etc wanted Greg Oden but never do we realize that Paul Allen did too. The pick will forever linked to Pritchard and rightfully so but don't forget who owns the team and has been known to make some pretty big decisions. The Greg Oden pick is as much of a Paul Allen pick as it is Pritchard's imo. If Paul Allen wanted Kevin Durant he would have said pick Kevin Durant, that simple. But he didn't. He said pick Greg Oden and that's why he won't give up on him.
     
  2. NJNetz

    NJNetz BBW Banned

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    The Blazers will be fine. I think they're used to not having Oden play, anyway.
     
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    Blazinaway Well-Known Member

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    Oden's a dream, maybe a some point it happens and very possibly it does not. IMO ROY's the one I'm worried about, I think his knees are really bad and the best case is a near term stabilization, and the likelihood is that it will only get worse as he plays.
     
  4. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Why look elsewhere?

    We have had our own share of guys getting money they didn't deserve:

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    And the best of all:

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  5. Elvin Jones

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    I think you have to take the qualifying offer, THEN you're a RFA for that year and an UFA the next. If you decline the QA, you automatically become an UFA.
     
  6. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I'm not sure who you mean by "you." If you mean the player, that's wrong. If you could go straight to UFA by declining QOs, every good/great player would do that. RFA is for the team and players can't bypass it if the team wants to exercise it. If the team offers the QO, the player can decline it...but they remain RFA. Any deal they sign with another NBA franchise can be matched by their original team. They can go to Europe, ala Josh Childress, but their rights remain owned by their original NBA team until they either sign the QO and play out their RFA year or else the team voluntarily renounces their rights.
     
  7. Elvin Jones

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    This is what I was replying to. And when I said "you have to take it," I didn't mean YOU MUST take it, I meant "you have to take it IN ORDER TO BE a restricted free agent.

    The team doesn't have to offer; then the player is unrestricted
    The player doesn't have to take it if it is offered; then the player is unrestricted
    The player can take the QO; then the player is restricted that year, and unrestricted the next

    Hope that clears it up
     
  8. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    That's the part that's wrong. There's no path to UFA, that year, if the team offers the QO. He can either sign it or else try to get a contract from another team, which the team can then match. If he does neither, he can't play basketball in the NBA because he won't be signed to any team. And that means the RFA status rolls over to the next year (the team retains his rights).

    The only way for the player to reach UFA is to either sign the QO and play out a year under the QO, or else for the team to not offer him QO. Or for him to sign a multi-year deal (which his original team can match) and play out that contract.

    This of course is under the current CBA. Things may change by next year.
     
  9. Elvin Jones

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    NO, FUCK YOU< YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG ZOMFG I'M GONNA...

    *five minutes of Internet searching later*

    ...clearly, I have failed at life.

    I really thought I was right about something for once, but I am wrong and you are right.

    :-(
     
  10. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I've made plenty of CBA-related mistakes. I just knew this because of the Josh Childress saga.
     
  11. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    You forgot that a team can offer the QO, the player has some time period to sign, but the team can rescind the offer making him a UFA if he's not signed to that point.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Sure, a team can do that. I just counted that under the team choosing not to offer a QO. The route is slightly more contentious, but it essentially is the same in result. My main point is that a player can't reach UFA without going through RFA, unless the team chooses so.
     
  13. LittleAlex

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    Didn't Portland pay Steve Francis for a years worth of salary as part of the Z-Bo deal?

    I seem to recall him being on the team.

    And let's not forget Raef's last season with the team.
    He didn't even bother trying to rehab.

    Just sat on his ass at home making literally twice as much as Oden's QO would cost.
    At least there is a good chance Oden will try and return to the lineup.
     
  14. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You can't blame Raef for that, he was on his death bed. At least, there was a lot of talk that year about him expiring. I never actually saw the obituary tho.

    barfo
     
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    Reaf Lafrentz Expiring Condition
     

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