"I don't know if he's convinced himself, mentally, that he can do it,"

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm not sure that his mental situation 1 day after the surgery is the best time to gauge how he'll handle it.
     
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    Oden was at the Maurice Lucas memorial, if I were the Blazers I'd have David Lucas to go and speak to him personally.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think more the shock and depression wearing off first. It's easy for us to say that he shuold respond a certain way, or that he doesn't like basketball, but we're not him. None of us know him personally, and none of us have gone through what he's gone through.

    If Greg does feel this way, I hope he doesn't go through the motions and potentially cause himself more harm than it's worth (long term).

    I also think people seek the rationale that backs their beliefs. He looks sad, so therefore he doesn't like basketball, for example.
     
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    Mixum's posts are a great example of how bleak life can be after that happens.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Strangely enough, or maybe not, his posts seem to be opposite from how the team is/fans feel.

    If fans are (overall) excited, he's down and negative. If the fans are (ovearll) down and negative, he's more neutral and sensible.
     
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    When I was 30 I was involved in a car accident that resulted in a severe lower sacral sprain (a bad low back injury stretching out ligaments). Read up if you want, but I had to spend 5 months on the couch moving as little as possible to lose all muscle tone and allow my spine to be released from spasming muscles... then the rebuilding PT started in earnest for the next 6 months.

    A year and a half after the first injury I was almost rehabbed back to being myself when I was clocked while biking by a driver of Ford F-150 that didn't observe a stop sign. I had the same injury and knew instantly that I had another year+ of being removed from life... I wouldn't have given very positive quotes that day either. While depressing, once I accepted my fate the 2nd rehab was definitely easier to endure. It helped to know how to handle the threat of depression from being cut off from everything. I'm sure Greg has people advising him how to avoid those pitfalls and a support system that far exceeds mine so I've got to imagine he'll survive

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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Out of curiosity, how did you handle bathroom/cleaning issues?

    I can't imagine being stationary for 5-6 months straight.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    No matter if you're a pro athlete or a average shlub, being chronically injured takes its toll on you. I've had three major knee surgeries with two of those coming in the last 3 years (and I need another). Granted I'm not an elite athlete, but I was a very serious climber and mountaineer and I feel like I've been robbed of my body ... I can only imagine what Oden must be going through, with all of the pressure and the fact that this is his livelihood.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    and you don't have friends/family second guessing everything you do, calling you all sorts of negative names, and accusing you of things you didn't do/wouldn't do/or everyone else does.

    Sure, he has millions, but that doesn't mean people can heap all sorts of shit on him because they want to.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    You haven't met my family and friends
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    They're probably the same people in my family too. :/
     
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    You guys are related?
     
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    That's the logical conclusion. Repped.
     
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    You mean 1 day after his "3rd" surgery. I dont think he has the killer instinct or desire that is needed to rehabilitate himself to be a all star caliber player in this league. Some guys have what it takes and some dont. I feel as if oden is content with his 20 mil and is riding off the fame that comes with being the #1 pick. Even if he dosent play another game in this league, he could still pull a stripper from 205 off his staus right now, and unfortunately i think he is ok with that.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You need another? Greg has one to spare.

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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    A spare surgery? He must have gotten a punch card or something.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Ah, you said injuries, not surgeries.

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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    derp. typo on my part
     
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