WikiLeaks "Leaker" Bradley Manning- Gays in the Military gone awry?

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    At least that is what the NY Times reporter is speculating. He was teased in the army for being gay and perhaps he leaked this information as some sort of revenge. :dunno:

    [video=youtube;OwgdRqexu0U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwgdRqexu0U[/video]

    via the NY Times:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/09/us/09manning.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2

     
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    ...let the smear campaigns begin!
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    more for Julian Assage and this likely fabricated "rape charge" for which Interpol just issued a "warrant" for his arrest for and put him on their top 10 most wanted....
     
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    ...it is a freakin' fiasco!
     
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    Smear? The largest leak of classified material in the history of the US speaks for itself. Trying to explain his behavior isn't a smear... though it does bring back some childhood memories of running around with a football playing in the front yard.

    I worked with classified material when I was in the military, and I can't fathom what he did. I remember someone disappearing just because he didn't have a witness that he destroyed certain material... let alone a malicious act.

    If they don't execute him he will have a nice long life in miliary prison... which from what I have heard from people that had personal experience with it... is not an enjoyable existance at all.
     
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    ...I was referring to Mr. Assage/WikiLeaks, not your fellow American military comrade. However, it continues amaze me that the focus of these leaks is not on the information presented but rather who leaked them.
     
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    Sifting through 250,000 documents looking for sellable info is hard, where as blindly speculating on who leaked this info and what should be done to Assage is easy.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    What should be done with assage?

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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Wow.
     
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    when was that from?

    Wouldn't that just weaken the case for gays in the military? Apparently, if the above scenario was true, Manning was harassed for being homosexual and couldn't take it so he committed treasonous acts as retribution with the help of his gay lover who was part of the hacker community in their college.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I posted that two days ago in the top 10 things we learned from wikileaks thread...

    I suggested the gay guy against DADT as an example of something that might make some govt. worker go postal. Seems prescient or something. I hadn't heard there was anyone suspected of leaking the documents to the www site.
     
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    It could be DADT or it could be the harassment from other troops for him being gay which causes some kind of vindictive behavior against his country, which is the argument against having Gays in the Military. Its a fine line with this case, the government has to prosecute him, but if it was found that he was harassed as a gay man by his fellow soldiers, it kind of legitimizes DADT as a policy of security.
     
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    How does a PFC have access to all this top secret material? I have a hard time believing he's the guy.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Hax0r skillz he learned from his boyfriend and their little "community" of computer freaks!
     
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    I have no desire to sift through anything stolen and potentially illegal. I am a bit surprised that media outlets printed it.
     
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    A gay guy leaking top secret info because of a ridiculous policy legitimizes the ridiculous policy? Was it his homosexuality that caused him to flip or a policy that says he can serve his country, but only if he completely denies the existence of a part of his life that caused him to flip?

    For the record, anger over DADT doesn't justify any of these actions, but these actions aren't a case for DADT.
     
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    I'm not. Its sensationalism like no other. If you weren't running it and your competitor was, you lose.
     
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    The policy isn't ridiculous if his open sexuality caused him to be outcast and shunned by the other soldiers and superiors to the point where he felt the need to exact revenge. It legitimizes the claim that openly gay soldiers serving in the military may have a psychological effect on morale.
     
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    I've spent hours reading these leaks and found nothing at all resembling anything that that could justifiably be rated top secret or even classified. It's mostly old news that anyone could have assumed, and nothing that endangers our national security.

    The only serious threat to The United States of America is the Department of Homeland Security, and the tycoons who direct it's moves.
     
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    Whomever leaked this stuff is a hero to Americans everywhere, and has done more to defend our Freedom through this one act than all the soldiers shooting strangers in the Middle East combined.

    Everything I've read of it so far is stuff we all should be aware of. We should know when a country has nukes, when another leader is thought to be irrational or dangerousely insane, when our elected leaders act like 4 year olds in private and mock or badmouth other leaders behind their backs, when our country bribes other countries to support us...
     

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