Prepare to defend yourself, your family, your property, your food, your dog...

For manual labor jobs, sure, having intelligence and knowledge is probably bad. For anything else in the world, it isn't. Being able to calculate and work a register, for example. One who is educated and has used computers extensively is more valuable than someone who did not graduate high school. The thing with college educated people is that they have worked through a system. They can read, they can write. they can problem solve.

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticke...7.html?tickers=^DJI,^GSPC,SPY,MCD,WMT,XRT,DIA

Approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 - the highest rate in 20 years.

Not surprisingly, that was immediately after Reagan's war on the middle class.

 

seems like the rich is doing well, investing, saving, etc and the poor...are having kids and spending money.

 

Haha. We clearly are talking about 2 completely different economic classes here.

By poor people I mean people who are poor. They have no savings, no insurance, no shelter that they own and often no food. Sporadic income at best. Auto leases or other credit is not available to these people, not that they could afford the gas.

You on the other hand keep talking about people who can buy cars and video games...

I guess I was dead-on with my earlier assumption.

 

You pay less rent because the government controls your rent? Fucking socialist. Next thing you're going to say is that you drive your paid-off car on government-funded streets and roads.

Most of those 1 in 8 are children. The rest are their single mothers. I'm talking about half of America, the working poor. No, robots can't replace them. There will be few rich people and upper middle class jobs if there is no money to be made from the poor. They're the only ones doing any real work, the kind that no one wants to do.

You seem to think the Depression won't hurt you, so you don't care about it. Every job, including yours, and every rich person without a job, depends upon poor people.

 

The poor have PS3s, leased cars and designer clothes too. Go to the hood sometime.

 

Sure, they have shitty jobs. What's new. If that's real work, they can go ahead and do it. There's a reason shit jobs that no one wants to do don't pay well...someone will eventually do them, they don't take any kind of intelligence or skill and there will never be a shortage of available workforce because anyone who can stand up, lift 50lbs etc can do them.

The depression will hurt everyone. It will affect the poor more since the prices of goods and services, food and everything else will go up and be available for those with money. Jobs will go to those with skillsets, education, work experience. The true poor may work hard, but they have replaceable jobs, otherwise they would be paid more. It doesn't take a skillset to take out the garbage, unload luggage at the airport or pump gas.

 

That's quite an imagination you have there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty

Poverty is the lack of basic human needs, such as clean water, nutrition, health care, education, clothing and shelter, because of the inability to afford them.

And you yourself would be a serf if the year were now 1700.

 

So when the US devolves into a 3rd-world nation, and almost all jobs are gruesome physical labor, you take comfort in thinking that college graduates will be given preferential treatment and hired instead of big strong people who are mentally much tougher and used to such work.

Well, you're wrong, you won't get the tough jobs that will predominate. Even if you're right, those who currently aren't poor still will have their lives turned upside-down by the Depression, more so than those used to being poor.

80% of the pencil-pushing paperwork you call a job will disappear if the country can afford only the core of an economy. You're not using your imagination to envision the end of affluence as we know it. You think the class system will protect you.

 

http://www.usdebtclock.org/#

Just thought I would share this.

Ok, back to the mass labeling and gross overgeneralization.

 

Sure the poor will have their world turned upside down. As prices of goods increase and as actual skilled labor continue to take their jobs, they will eventually be the homeless. The simple jobs like assembly, data input, call centers, help desks, etc will go to the college educated workforce. The manual labor jobs will go to Illegal immigrants who will work harder and cheaper.

The middle class will become the poor, the poor will become homeless.

I work and have worked with the squatter communities in mexico through a charitable program. These are what the poor are going to be...they will live in squatter communities (tent cities) and be jobless and will live off begging on the street.

 

It has been my experience that problem solving is not a strong point at all with people who spent most of their formative adult years in college. Just the opposite. Most of them don't understand how the real world works, are socially awkward in mixed-age settings, and aren't creative thinkers at all. They have been trained by rote to solve problems in their specific job/field, but that's a far cry from being able to think on your feet and act on the fly.

What they are is robots trained for a specific job. They know very little about anything else. And someday robots will replace them in that job and they will be useless to society.

They are emotionally under-developed and far less reliable as an employee than someone the same age who has been working to support a family for the last eight years.

 

What a site. Thank you. Look in the upper left. The annual US Federal Budget DEFICIT is now $1.3 trillion.

Check out when the US Federal Budget SURPLUS was a quarter of a trillion and growing fast each year. Back when the Democrats had licked the problem, and the future was golden. Before the giant tax cut for the rich and the elective wars.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/2000.html

 

It was written while I was forming the thought and I sort of changed my mind midpost what I was going after. I didn't mean to start an arguement about economic classes.

I was really more interested in how prepared other posters were in the event they had to defend themselves and their loved ones in a state of anarchy.

It appears nearly everyone here has never given it a thought nor prepared in any way for the possibility.

Which means they are actually relying on the Nanny State to protect them in ALL situations. F'ing Socialists!

 

So it has nothing to do with parenting? That is cool. I will save alot of money not sending my kids to school and tell them to gain real world experience by having a family they cannot support. I also guess I made a huge mistake by building up a big enough nest egg to be a stay at home dad without suffering a dropoff in lifestyle.

Seriously, what was I thinking?

 

So instead of spending time instilling fear and paranoia, I spend time reading to my kids and making them productive members of society. If that is being a Socialist, so be it.

 

Maris, so far this year 241,206 Subarus have been sold.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/auto-sales.html

College graduates are mostly a bunch of wooden-thinking nerds. Robotic inflexibility is what gets most of them through all those years of being a big bore. When I returned to college at age 30, I was confident that my new extrovert personality acquired in 5 years of office jobs would give me an advantage. I soon found that the introverts were geting the As, and I forced myself to regress to teenhood to pass my courses. A rounded personality doesn't survive in college.

When white collar jobs disappear, college graduates will have no advantage in getting the jobs that remain.