Time to light the fuse and blow this sucker up?

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Why not try this: Addition by Subtraction, its got to work!
     
  2. craigehlo

    craigehlo Elite Wing

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    The contract length is what I'm talking about. If we can get an expiring contract for him, you do it.
     
  3. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    We won't be able to build through Free Agency until Roy's off the books.

    Trading for an expiring is extremely short sighted and reactionary. Also, without a target, its useless...we've seen what happens with imaginary cap space.
     
  4. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Unless big changes are made to the CBA, cap space can also be used to make lopsided trades.
     
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    RoyToy Clown Town

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    Btw this team has an issue right now with Roy/Matthews/Batum.

    Matthews is too good not to start and Batum is a failure off the bench. He's a glue , not a bench scorer like Outlaw was.

    Obvious answer is probably Roy off the bench but that's just isn't going to happen anytime soon. I hope the team doesn't view this as a time to get rid of Batum since there's no place for him in the starting lineup where he needs to be.

    Even if Roy was healthy it'd be a problem. Don't want to lose a young talent like Batum(depending on the return).
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    I see a future of Batum/Matthews starting at the 2/3.

    The only problem is finding a way to get rid of Brandon Roy.

    FML.
     
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    which we have already failed at. lopsided trades are made with Expiring Contracts.

    Such as trading LaMarcus Aldridge for an expiring contract.
     
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    Play Roy at the point. Maybe he sucked at it tonight but the way I see it, getting Miller off this team and getting deeper bench is better than letting Batum rot on the bench. If Roy is as he is, he will only be effective at the 1 IMO. Better than playing shitty at the 2.
     
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    Matthews and Batum at the 2/3 is the most logical answer but doesn't seem very likely at the moment with Roy still on the team. He's going to have to be forced to give up his spot.

    That said, with Matthews and Batum and the 2/3 the team better get a really damn good PG for the future. Matthews and Batum won't be creating a ton of offense for others any time soon.
     
  10. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    What? When have the Blazers ever absorbed a player into their cap room?

    I'm talking about the kind of deal that the Clippers made for Camby where all they had to do was surrender a future second round pick to Denver.
     
  11. EL PRESIDENTE

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    Imaginary Cap Space. We had it, didn't use it well. No trades, just signed Hedo.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I would take him here in a second. That Pippen deal he pulled off solidified him as a great GM in my mind.

    Hell, I'd take KP back with a smile. He at least had some sort of conviction and plan when he was GM. Cho just seems dazed and confused, sorta like Nate.
     
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    KP is the one who fucked this team up. Trading ZBO for his grand scheme of imaginary cap space did more damage than any knee injuries.

    well, maybe not that far. but almost.
     
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    I can't even remember the last time I heard Cho in the media.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I never believe in blowing it up. I think the quickest path to a championship-caliber team (short of pure luck, which you can't plan for) is building from what the team has. In this case, what it has is Batum, Aldridge and Matthews. If the team can trade older players like Miller, Camby and/or Przybilla for a younger player(s), great. But I don't think a firesale of everyone on the team is productive.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That doesn't change the fact that doing a lopsided trade is a legal move with cap space under the current CBA ... I wasn't making a judgement about what is best.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    trader Bob may have traded for Pippen, but the issue is that the team he traded Pippen onto, actually had a solid core. This team doesn't. Not only that, there ain't a Pippen out there (or better than Pippen).
     
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    +1.

    blowing it up never works. its what loser teams do.

    You only win rings by trading for SUPERSTARS.
     
  19. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That only works if you are the Celtics or the Lakers.
     
  20. illmatic99

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    Regardless, it's his ingenuity and ability to make the most of his resources (PA) that I was referring to, moreso than the actual players involved in the trade. KP, to an extent, knew how to use PA's $$$ to his advantage. Unless PA has completely shut down the bank on Cho (which I don't believe for a second), I want to see/hear something from him that tells us where we're headed this season and in our near future, and I want him to act upon it.
     

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