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  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I thought pretty much everything Jerome said was spot on. Roy as a supposed team leader isn't handling his position very well.
     
  2. RoyToy

    RoyToy Clown Town

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    Hard part is what Roy is saying isn't exactly untrue. IMO he's right in what he's saying. It's just something you can't say to the papers, though.

    He's just too open and honest for his own good. I'm not sure he realizes how bad his answers make him look sometimes. He's just saying how he feels.
     
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    Driew Well-Known Member

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    Its not pretty, but that's what we signed him to. And just because he makes 85 million doesn't mean he should still start. And coming off the bench DOES NOT mean only playing 20 minutes. He'd still play his usual 30-35. Its amazing that people think you NEED to have your best five starting. Uh....Ginobli anyone? He came off the bench....

    Until Andre is traded that is the best option.
     
  4. SlyPokerDog

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    Chuck Taylor BATUUUM SHAKKA LAKKA!

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    Quick asks Roy what's wrong with the team, and this is what he gets:
    Quick asks Aldridge what's wrong with the team and gets this:
    It's Quick's job to ask what is wrong - Aldridge demonstrated the professional way to answer, Roy just pointed fingers and blamed others. I can see why people would upset with Roy for what he said. He should have answered the question like a pro.
     
  6. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    what time was quick on?
     
  7. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    LOL! It says, "Jason Quick talking about Brandon Roy"

    2pm or the Hour 3 podcast.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Internet forums create a feedback loop for anger, until it turns surprisingly vicious. I've seen it on pretty much every forum I've looked at over the years. Natural combativeness in trying to win arguments about players (which pushes people to more and more extreme or entrenched positions) and reading and posting constantly about players (rather than letting frustration die down between games) seems to fuel the feedback loop.

    I imagine talk radio served and continues to serve a similar function, but since I've never listened to that (only heard others talk about it), I don't know for sure.

    Ultimately, I try to filter out the "Grr, I hate all these losing losers for losing like losers" and read posts that seem like attempts at analysis or reasoned opinion.
     
  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Vicious cycle that has been going on since last season. Roy says or does something selfish/egotistical and some fans tear him apart while other fans lament how quickly our fans turn on our only All-Star and All-NBA player.

    This happened a handful of times last year, and we've already seen this happen two or three times this year. Let's take a look at some of the things Roy has done while here:

    Demanded that Zach Randolph be traded.

    Blocked Andre Miller from starting.

    Complained about Miller and used Miller as an excuse for his poor play.

    Complained about Oden being featured in the offense.

    Complained about the roster and the offense.

    That's just off the top of my head. I think there's plenty of good reason to be unhappy with Brandon Roy. He's becoming more and more egotistical and he isn't handling his decline very well, which is to be expected.

    Brandon Roy is the hot chick who got fat, but still thinks she's hot.
     
  10. MickZagger

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    The obvious difference is that Sabonis wasn't a 25 year old max contract guy.
     
  11. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Ben Golliver has a really nice take he put up on Blazersedge.com today

    http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/12/14/1876616/should-you-be-listening-to-the-brandon-roy

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  12. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    Wow when you say lets look at some of the things Roy has done since he has been here, every thing you mention is negative. Maybe you meant to say let's look at all the negative things Roy has done . . . but I was expecting a bullet points of the good and bad.

    Or is your list the list of what you think are the most significant things he has done since he has been here, because I would think leading team to playoffs, leading team in scoring, being the first Blazer all star since whenever along with the stuff you mentioned should go on the list too, IMO
     
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    When was Oden featured in the offense, and when did roy publicly complain about that?
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Beginning of last year. Roy said so in the media
     
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    As for the rest of the list, I've always been of the mindset that if you have someone you think is, or actually is a franchise player, you try to build around that player. Roy was at his best with a guard that spaced the floor. Now, yes, he preferred Blake to Miller. Given the two options. And though arguments will go on both sides, we did win more games with Blake. I think it's on our GM to improve the roster. And our coach to find fits. Nate saw fits with miller in a few guys,a nd Blake with others.

    KP..I have done a 180. I was a huge supporter. But...Sorry. Again, you build around your best player. I get the Miller signing was probably a last gasp sort of deal. But I don't think adding Hedo at SF was going to be any better. A PG/SF. When others clamored for a Mo Williams, Jamal Crawford. Basically, an improved offensive Blake. Many looked at Hinrich as an improvement of him on defense. Maybe slightly more on O. But if you have a SF in Webster or Batum who looks to be a really good defender, and who could guard multiple positions, the optimal choice would have been to go with a Crawford or Williams at the point. KP chose Miller. I like Miller a lot. He has won us some games. he has drastically changed the team dynamic, and the team has fallen down for more than one reason since his arrival.

    And I know injuries are at the forefront of that. Butthe biggest injury each year has seemed to be Oden, and really, he's never been a part of this team. We somehow never put veteran role players around our young building blocks of Roy and Aldridge. Every draft we went with Claver, Koppo, Jarret on steroids. How about just Jarret?

    We went Spurs model, before having the titles and great players in place. Stashing before there was too much talent that drafting more was a problem. Signing scrub shit players to sit on th ebench, as opposed to taking a chance on talent, or keeping a vet along, for the most part, howard being an exception.

    Sorry, long rant.
     
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    It's ironic that certain fans are criticizing Brandon for being selfish, egotistical, or whiny. They actually might be describing themselves instead.
     
  17. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Fans always turn on the players they once loved. Familiarity breeds contempt.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Even Rudy got turned on when Speed and his brother entered the back room.
     
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    Huh? Link, please. NateBishop's list seems to be a lot of his own opinion, versus what Roy has actually said or done. Plus, as previously posted, everything he listed is negative, which waves the "disregard this mod's opinion because he is clearly biased" flag in my face.
     
  20. MickZagger

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    You should use paragraphs. That hurts to read.
     

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