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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Good trade IMO

    Who the fuck cares who will be our starting center, but did we all forget about Joel? The key is to upgrade this team for the future, and Nelson is a nice young PG
     
  2. RoyToy

    RoyToy Clown Town

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    Blazers already have their CoTF future in Greg Oden.
     
  3. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    I think I'm with Mediocre Man on this one, and that's something that doesn't happen often. There would have to be some other pieces added to make this work from a cap standpoint, but it could be done. As and example, adding Duhon and Armon Johnson makes the numbers work. Neither Camby nor Miller figure to be part of the Blazers' future past next year, and next season is likely to be lost to a lockout. Nelson is a good fit with the type of team I'd like to see the Blazers build and Bass is a decent PF. For the rest of this season, Joel and LaMarcus would have to share the center spot. After that, hopefully Oden is able to get some healthy time and be part of the equation. Maybe there are better deals out there, and I'm sure Cho is investigating all of them, but I don't think this is an awful idea at all.
     
  4. blazedanugz

    blazedanugz Well-Known Member

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    didnt anyone catch when eh said something along the lines of..."it is pretty well known around the league that roy wants miller gone and is pissed about it" which is not helping his play at all...i think people know around the league roy is pouting and possibly faking just a little bit. i know his knee are in bad shape..but they were last year to. and dont tell me its because its a different knee cuz im gonna tell you its not. i sit right next to the bench and everygame roy is icing his right knee...anybody notice that? shit i think i just confused myself:tsktsk:
     
  5. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Don't worry about which knee--they're both bad. :(
     
  6. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Yup, I dig that trade too and although it would certainly cost us wins this year it does address two glaring issues 1) Getting decent value for two very old guys who won't be here post lockout and 2) Bass at the very least becomes a nice backup power forward and if the team really does go up tempo from here on out small ball lineups with he and LMA could be pretty effective and if you can get anything out of Greg and/or draft a decent 5 (Enes Kanter comes to mind) then I think you're better off two years than you would be otherwise.

    Also a third point: Nelson would actually fit alongside Roy ... but I'd still want to see Roy evolve and maybe make a move to a Manu role on permanent basis.
     
  7. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    He's 29, he's not young in NBA terms.
     
  8. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    How is Nelson being 28 a negative? A veteran point guard with some years left and pretty good skill aint a bad consolation prize for giving up Andre.
     
  9. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Nelson pretty much is what he is. I'd prefer someone with a little more upside.

    Oh, btw, it was Thompson and Kermit Washington, not Duckworth on the radio show.
     
  10. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    An 18+ PER point guard with 14 points and 7 assists this year and a career 38% three point shooter and pretty accurate otherwise, so when you say you prefer somebody with more upside, I assume you're talking about that top tier of young point guards that are almost always completely unavailable.
     
  11. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    It seems like you guys don't realize how mediocre Nelson is, and how much impact Howard has on Nelson's game.
     
  12. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    He's a good-not-great point guard, what am I not seeing?
     
  13. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Nelson is garbage...... no thanks.
     
  14. MickZagger

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    This year is going to be one of the most PG heavy drafts in a while. I prefer gambling on upside of a guy like Kemba Walker and Josh Selby than getting Nelson. I don't like undersized guards like Nelson.

    Shelvin Mack is another guy who is going to go up draft boards. I think he'll be a solid point.
     
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    RoyToy Clown Town

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    Why do you say that?
     
  16. RoyToy

    RoyToy Clown Town

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    Yet you like Kemba Walker? :confused::confused::confused:
     
  17. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Who's to say you wouldn't trade for Nelson and draft a point guard prospect? In that way you can hopefully let a guy ease into the NBA and if he pans out Nelson wouldn't be impossible to move down the line if you really wanted to.

    I'm almost adamantly opposed to drafting a point guard and throwing him to the wolves unless it's Kyrie Irving and we aren't going to suck badly enough to have a shot at him.
     
  18. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    He'll measure out better than Nelson.
     
  19. RoyToy

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    Sounds like he'll be lucky to hit 6-1. Probably measure 6-0 at best.

    Also, at least Nelson has size on him.

    That said, Kemba Walker is still a small guard.
     
  20. RR7

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    Nelson measured out at 6'.25" in shoes. 199. walker would be lucky to hit those. Regardless, though, I agree with the above about drafting one of the top guys to play behind him. Nelson has two years after this, the last being a player option. At 7.8, depending on the new CBA, I can see him declining that option to go elsewhere. If he does or doesn't, though, you have him for 1-2 years to groom our drafted PG.
     

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