Is Wesley Matthews a Ballhog?

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  1. PapaG

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    1.5 assists per game, yet a usage rate of 22.6%.

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    Shooting from a shooting guard? Terrible! :)

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    I know. I just was reading earlier here from one of the experts how Roy is a ballhog who doesn't get his teammates baskets. Roy's 5 assists/36 vs. Matthews' 2 assists/36.

    I dunno. 'Splain it to me, peeps!
     
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    Yes. I kind of like it though.
     
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    In Nate's snailball system 1.5 assists is equivalent to 5-ish normal NBA assists :devilwink:
     
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    I have called him a chucker since day 1.
     
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    I want Roy's defense back desperately.
     
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    Eh, a chucker is someone that takes shots out of the flow of the offense(contain your laughing) imo. Wesley doesn't really do that at all. He stays within the offense.
     
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    Matthews is not used in the same capacity or situations as Roy. Roy was the primary ball handler in our ISO offense, Matthews almost never is. I've seen him make a fair amount of great passes and I can't remember many times where I actually thought he should have passed. I don't think he is a ballhog.
     
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    I don't remember saying to myself nOOOOOOOOOOOOOO on any of his shots, so No I don't think so.
     
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    You know who else is a ballhog? That Brandon Roy. What a ballhog!
     
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    Gee.....maybe that is why he wasn't drafted out of college - he has holes in his game!

    Matthews is a nice complimentary player who is being asked to do too much. He is still, however, an upgrade over Webster, and at least as useful as Outlaw.
     
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    I don't think Wes is a ballhog. He does take a fair number of bad shots. With Matthews, you have to accept a certain number of bad plays with the good, and he provides both.
     
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    Yes, but they didn't bring him in here to pass the rock. Defense and hustle is why he is here. Unfortunately we are depending on him on the offensive end in a way we didnt think we needed to.
     
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    That's a good point. I only ask because I've seen it posted that Matthews is a solid long-term replacement for Roy, and I just don't see it unless another player of Roy's caliber is picked up at either PG or SF. Replacing Roy with Matthews, with everything else staying the same, is a net loss IMO.
     
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    Roy has basically the same usage rate as Matthews this season, yet he is assisting at nearly 2x the rate as Matthews. That's during a terrible season by Roy, FWIW.
     
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    Well better get used to him, he's our SG of the future. Imagine where we would be had we NOT signed 'em!
     
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    Hey, replay dude!

    Getchyo shit 2gether 2nite!
     
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    wow, aren't you amazing
     
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    Bayless dropped 30+ on the Spurs when he started for Roy. I guess that's where we would be?
     

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