Arizona: U.S. Congresswomen, 12 others shot, at least 4 dead

He admits he's a clown. He admits that anyone who watches the Daily Show for their news is misguided. He admits they do fake news.

However, it's a new world. Every news channel is entertainment first, news second. I don't see why you would dismiss his opinion based on his network affiliation. You may not like it, but he is extremely influential. It's pretty clear you don't watch the show regularly. He does criticize all sides. He is the only person I know of that regularly calls for civil discourse in political arenas.

In case you're interested in seeing what a very influential person is talking about instead of writing him off as Bozo, go ahead and watch this in case you haven't

[video=youtube;6JzGOiBXeD4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JzGOiBXeD4&feature=fvw[/video]

 

This guy was rejected by the military. If MIXUM gets suspended for posting some supposedly insensitive remarks after Mo Lucas' death, should the author of this sort of vile vitriol, based on a falsehood, also get a timeout?

 

Climate of violence?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_knife_fight.html

 

So, since this story broke, we now know that those who knew that nutjob say was batshit crazy, that he was inspired by movies like Loose Change and Donnie Darko, that police had been to his residence before, and that one of his college professors had called 911 on him for rants he was giving in class last summer.

With this knowledge available in the media, the sheriff in charge of this county continues to blame talk radio for the crime, even as he admits that he has no proof of an actual link.

My question to the sheriff would be this: How could you not have any deputies assigned to an organized public event involving a sitting US Representative? That seems like a very basic practice in law enforment, doesn't it? I don't think I've ever been to any public event in Portland without a presence from either the police or sheriff's office. Hell, even the Ski Expo in north Portlan has police/deputies there every year.

This entire episode has so completely turned me off to the political "debate" in this country as I've ever been. Instead mourning the victims, this entire tragedy has been minimized to verbal potshots between the far left and the far right in order to assign blame. When the head of the actual investigation is the most vocal person partaking in this activity, it's hard to say that we aren't completely lost as a country.

 

Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

But let's not jump to conclusions...

 

I found it to be a bad day for everyone. Way to look at "sides", though.

I don't even know what this means. I don't travel for work as I used to do. Was this your attempt at an insult?

 

Yes that was the first thing that upset me, the lack of security. Not even a couple of patrol vehicles standing close by?

I agree that is such a reckless and immature position to take, to randomly blame someone for a nut's actions. It just shows what credibility most people lack and diminishes their opinions in the future.

 

Dad pursued Ariz. massacre suspect before shooting

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/11/AR2011011106068.html

 

That's pretty short sighted.

 

Fortunately most people aren't buying it.

Poll: Conservatives not to blame for Ariz. shooting

 

...I would also like to know why it took paramedics and emergency personnel 20-30 minutes to show up to the scene of this crime?! Were they told to "stand-down" or what?!

 

Loughner's friend said on ABC news that the guy wasn't in to TV at all, wasn't in to politics at all, and never listened to political radio. He said Loughner was shooting "at the world" and had spiraled out of control after a girl broke up with him. He started drinking and using and obviously he's mentally ill. This is a fail on every side of American politics. Every one is fucking guilty of being morons. Leave it at that and focus on the real tragedy. Sickening.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser...ect-did-not-watch-tv-disliked-the-news_b48040

 

Censorship of an American's free speech is the vilest insult you can inflict on the military. They are supposedly willing to die to protect that right.

Most people know that.

 

If protection was needed, it would not have been the County Sherriff's problem unless it was a county politico. This would be a Fed or State responsibility, and I see no reason why you would think it needed. This was one incident in a country that has probably thousands of comparable little "meet your rep" events every month. Frankly, if the candidate felt the need for a show of security, I'd probably consider them too weak and timid for the job. I expect the representatives I vote for to have at least more courage than the military and police have.

Ron Wyden does town halls all over Oregon every year. I've been to 2 of them in La Pine, and there was no official police presence that I noticed.

Years ago I attended a rally for a candidate for the Presidency the toy department at M&F in downtown Portland. I don't recall any security at that rather popular event either, despite the candidate mingling with us and personally handing out rubber-stamped "autographs".

 

Actually, he was just "into" reading.

Firstly, just because you read a book doesn't believe you support the views expressed in it.

Secondly, those few books were deliberately hand-picked by a media-manipulator out of a large library of other diverse classics he had listed online.

Here is his list of favorites:

I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.

Some very good books there. I've read all but one of them and haven't killed anyone.

God help you all if and when I read Meno.