Bye, bye, Andre Miller

PapaG believes Andre Miller injured Roy, making this team worse. I don't blame him for disliking Roy. If I believed that, too, I'd also dislike Miller.

 

Yeah, and Andre Miller attacked Pearl Harbor back in 1941, he shot JFK, and he crashed the planes into the World Trade Center. He's a regular super terrorist, but he's pretty darn good at passing a basketball so I'm willing to overlook his faults.

 

I could see that.

 

I haven't bothered to read the last couple pages of this thread but am wondering why you guys would bother arguing with PapaG? Picking pointless & endless fights on internet forums appears to be his hobby. You're just wasting keystrokes. You'd have better luck using your time petitioning to get DJ MixedUp banned from here (which won't ever happen either).

 

You can't say the same thing when it comes to Roy, can you?

Roy is a bad person. He spoke the truth and that's unacceptable. Miller did the same exact thing but it doesn't matter. Roy is still a bad person.

 

^Nice!

 

Roy is the undisputed leader of the team, our All-Star, and in his first year of a five year, 80+ million dollar contract, so yes.... I hold him to a higher standard than I do with Miller. He shouldn't be throwing people under the bus to the media, he shouldn't be pouting, and he should be making an effort to repair his relationship with Miller. If you disagree, that's fine.

 

I'm not ignoring anything. You're offering stats, and I am offering stats. Anything else related to those stats is considered opinion, and some may even call them excuses.

 

I definitely do disagree. I put a lot of the blame on Miller.

This has gone about as far as it can go it looks like. Good discussion. This is why I come to RipCitytwo.com.

 

I am assessing the team based on wins, and by proxy, the players on those teams. Since this thread turned into a PER argument for the PG poistion, I thought I would yet again that I like wins, and that I'm not a fantasy basketball player.

 

So you don't hold Roy to a higher standard? He's no different than, say, Dante Cunningham or Luke Babbitt in your eyes?

 

So by that standard, Brandon Roy is 0-2 in the playoffs. So is Aldridge actually.... should we get rid of them?

 

How is pointing out a statistical fact "trolling"? I don't think much of Miller as the PG for the Blazers. Never have. If posting that makes me a troll, then there a ton of trolls on this board, including you, considering your act regardingNate McMillan. Didn't you actually wish for the team to fail last year, just so you could be consdiered "right" about Nate being a bad coach?

 

They have much shorter track record, and both are much better players than old man Miller.

Plus, I blame last year's playoff loss on Miller for being clowned by Grant Hill.

 

This shit is crazy! I don't need to throw out stats or PERs, there are probably only about 7 or 8 better PGs in the league. Point blank.

 

What a stupid post.

 

There's nothing new to add to this discussion imo. It's gone as far as it can go. If you feel you need to the last word, go ahead.

Good discussion.

 

Wow, I thought you actually knew the NBA. If Miller is a Top 10 PG, then PG is a position of one-dimensional players in the league.

 

You're the one who compared Michael Jordan to Andre Miller.

 

That was mean. And all I was doing was showing understanding for your position.