Blazers v. Clips game thread (on TNT) 1/20

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  1. PapaG

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    Griffin turned the ball over 5 times. LMA turned it over 1 time.

    LMA >>>> Blanky Griffin
     
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    Barkley had his mind made up last month. He's not gonna change it now, especially for a Blazer.

    Even if the stats don't completely indicate it, Aldridge was significantly better than Griffin tonight.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Let's not get too carried away. Rudy is shooting even worse this season than he did last. A game or two doesn't erase that.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Like the rest of the bench (And even some of the starters), he's hot or cold. We got hot Rudy tonight.
     
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    it's good to have "good" Rudy instead of "wet-the-bed" Rudy on national TV.
     
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    For stretches tonight, Griffin was looking like a rookie. More importantly, LMA was playing like a cagey vet!
     
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    Rudy is now trending.

     
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    4 games out of 3rd place in the West. :)
     
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    His awful shooting also probably had quite a lot to do with that. 6-17 for an "inside" player? Yeesh.

    Using some points+rebounds+assists metric would be wildly simplistic in assessing how the two players did. At the very least, shooting percentage and turnovers should be considered.

    Griffin's a hell of a player, though. Not a go-to type of offensive player yet. He's more like a young Shawn Kemp. Elite rebounder and finisher, not a very good player at getting his own shot.
     
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    [video=youtube;IBUD2Ol2drE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBUD2Ol2drE[/video]
     
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    LMA will make it. The coaches could give a shit about Love and Griffin. They tend to reward the more established players.
    Stern would care about marketing. The coaches know who deserve it.
     
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    I think you overestimate the "established player" thing and underestimate just how huge the numbers Love and Griffin have been putting up since the beginning of the season. LMA's "quiet" first month and a half is really going to weigh him down; this production needed to start back in early November.
     
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    I think you over estimate the numbers and under estimate the coaches ability to know who is helping his team win more and also who is making his teammates play better, and not who will be a star in the future. If I am a coach I want to keep the young bucks down a little longer.
     
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    Say what? Whatever their rationale, I highly doubt this has anything to do with the decision making process.
     
    Nikolokolus, Jan 20, 2011
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    Lol. I was actually humming that tune to myself while watching the replay during the game.

    Usually when you shoot over somebody it's not your own teammate rolling around on the floor.
     
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    The funniest part of that sequence was Wes seemingly taking a charge. On offense.
     
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    You're right. Their formula is spelled out at the bottom of the page. 11 Missed shots reduce the score much more than 5 turnovers does.

    Which is why I kind of like their simple system. BTW, just for fun, I applied their formula to each players full season stats so far. LA is over 150 "rating points" behind Griffin on the year, and more than 230 behind Love. Per game, LA is averaging a little over 39, while the other two are each right around 45.

    But again, much like PER, it doesn't measure defense, so :dunno:
     
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    Right and Jordan didn't get intentionally "freezed out" in his his first allstar game by Thomas and Ewing who wanted to make a point. I think opposing coaches will understand that Griffin will be an allstar for many years. If the decision is close, give the nod to the older player. Blake has enough hype being in LA. LMA is a better all around player right now and deserves it over Blake and Love.
     
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    BTW, the name of the song (in case anyone cares) is "Yakety Sax"--it's one of Jim Rome's favorites. Reminds me of the time that Blake Griffin actually had one of his buddies play that song in the background while he was doing a Rome show interview last year, presumably as an indicator that he knew the show. It was actually pretty cool.
     
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  20. PtldPlatypus

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    I think the fact that it's in LA, as is Blake, will ensure that if he doesn't get voted in by the coaches, he will be added to the team by David Stern as Yao's replacement. I would be absolutely shocked if Griffin didn't make the all-star team.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Jan 20, 2011
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