'Harry Potter' Actress' Brother Sentenced in Her 'Honor Beating'

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  1. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    If you subtract 1) the sexist posters who are pissed off that it was male vs. female, and 2) the warmonger posters who are pissed off because they hate Muslims, and 3) the narcissist posters who are only children and never had siblings to fight with, you are left with those who see this as a family fight, just like any two brothers have at least once while growing up.

    Back when Sheed was yelling all the time, I learned that a lot of only children post. Having grown up sheltered, they think every immature violent family fight should give someone a lifelong felony record.

    Now if you want to say that society shouldn't be organized along the family system, only then are you being consistent when you demand formal behavior within the family. The only way you're going to eliminate family fights is to eliminate the family.
     
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    It's quite a job, to introduce those who love to hate and punish, to the reality of real human conditions, a reality of suffering produced by the system which you insist is better than any other.

    Many creative people could easily design a system which would eliminate much of the punishment you think is inevitable, which avenges the suffering you think is inevitable. But you want to fight wars to prevent any new system, and you military types want to kill anyone with imagination. So this won't be ending for quite awhile.
     
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    You're kidding, right? He's 28. She's 21. I fought with my brother and sister until I (the eldest) was around 12. And I never physically had an altercation with my younger sister.

    I find it hard to believe you can write off the level of violence alleged as acceptable merely because it's between family members.

    Ed O.
     
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    Fundamentalist what?

    Ed O.
     
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    If you stopped fighting your siblings at age 12, you were a rare duck. This was a family argument, with the parents as the main protagonists, and the brother joining them like a big brother. The legal system made itself look like an ass when it jealously tried to replace the parents as the authority in the family by destroying the brother's lifelong job prospects. If the law wants a system without family structure, it should openly push for that, instead of sniping away at the inevitable fights the system has always produced and always will.
     
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    Choking her? Punching her?

    Dragging her by her hair?

    Is that really how a 28 year-old brother should be expected to act?

    And, yes, I stopped fighting around that age. Arguing? Eff no. But fighting? Yes.

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    Holy rollers of course. Did you read the article?

    And yeah, there isn't really any other way to explain their behavior except that they are either fundamentalists or from a culture that has tribal laws that condone this kind of thing. According to Wiki, they are Bengali. I don't know shit about Bengali culture so I couldn't say.
     
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    Of course. But surely all fundamentalists aren't the same. Fundamentalist Taoists? Fundamentalist Buddhists?

    Are they doing this sort of thing? I guess maybe they are, but I haven't seen it.

    Why is fundamentalist Islam seemingly so rooted--or at least steeped--in violence?

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    Fundamentalists Muslims, like fundamentalist Christians, have a specific interpretation of their holy text. Usually, this interpretation heavily emphasizes the parts of the Qur'an that condone violence. The whole notion of honor killings though, has a deep root in the tribal aspect of many cultures around the world. I just think that fundamentalists are much more likely to commit such an act due to the idea that such an act is permissible by God.

    Like I said before, fundamentalist Islamic creeds tend to focus on violent aspects of the Qu'ran. I don't think this is because Islam is inherently violent (IT IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE AFTER ALL HERP DE DURP), but because of the political and social situations in Muslim lands today. Extremely reactionary and violent belief systems don't usually crop up during times of calm.

    Obviously, this is a pretty complicated question that I don't have a real answer to. But at least you asked it, so thanks for playing.
     
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    Because they mimic fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Jews and fundamentalist Mormons and fundamentalist hedge fund managers...
     
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    Why? Was your sister kicking the poo out of you?
     
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    In all honesty I see your personal attack point. Nonetheless, they are Muslims. And, many other Muslim sects are just as bad. I think you refuse to face some basic facts, my fellow poster.
     
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    There are 3 kinds of violent people.

    Crazy, stupid and cowardly.

    Fundamentalists tend to be more stupid and cowardly than crazy.
     
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    Especially fundamentalist atheists.
     
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    Charles Manson was Jesus Christ.

    The entire KKK is made up of devout Christians. All of them are Caucasian. And many other caucasian people are just as bad.

    I think it is you refuse to face some basic facts. Bad people are here in every walk of life, every color of the rainbow.

    Don't give them an excuse, hold them personally responsible for the evil they inflict.
     
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    What the hell are you talking about? I seem to be missing your point.
     
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    People are inherently imperfect.

    Religions are invented to give insecure people an excuse for their imperfect behavior.
     
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    Atheism is a religion unto itself as well. And BTW, I do appreciate your response. I like to know where people are coming from.
     
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    Prosecutors routinely overstate, to win their cases. Punching, strangling, and dragging by hair is one thing when you're fighting for your life against a stranger on the street. It's a whole different thing in a family fight, where you pull your punches, and your displays and threats are just for show to make your point.

    This was in Britain, where he got 6 months, which is ridiculous enough for a family fight with the uninjured "victim" pleading for the legal system to get lost. But in the asinine American legal system, he'd get 4 years. This is one reason the US government can't solve its deficit problem.
     

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