OT: OKC made out like bandits

I think Green is a pretty good player. He was playing out of position in OKC. Dude isn't a power forward.

 

Perkins came from a Celtics system that makes Big Baby Davis look good. I also doubt that the Celtics would have done the deal had they been confident he was going to return to his pre-knee injury production anytime soon He's a solid player, but not a massive upgrade over Krstic that the media seems to think. OKC can have fun paying him the $60 million for his average production.

 

wow, some of you overrate perkins. he is just another example of a guy that looks good next to kg, along with olawakandi and nesterovic. when kg is out, bostons defense suffers, and it shows in the stats. perkins has been out all year pretty much and the defense hasn't skipped a beat. and that's with Shaq and jermaine missing a ton of time. I loved him because he could guard Dwight well, but aside from that, I think he is barely average.

 

I don't think people actually thought Olowokandi and Nesterovic looked good next to KG.

Perkins is a good rebounder, good man defender and a decent shot blocker. He's a healthy Joel Przybilla but he can actually score just a tad. Boston is going to miss him big time.

Long term it's probably a better deal for the Celtics, though. This season it hurts them imo.

 

I think it was a trade of slightly below average player for average player with health concerns. The average player Oklahoma City got is a better fit in terms of roster balance than the slightly below average one they sent.

Boston gets a healthier player who's approximately as productive but not as good on defense. Green should be a decent reserve for them.

 

Some of you are massively overrating Perkins. He's a good 5th or 6th option on a team and can play good defense. But, Jeff Green right now, is better than Perkins will ever be.

 

Jeff Green is a better scorer. And Perkins is a better defender. And for a team like OKC, I think Perkins' D is more valuable.

 

Perkins is a wide body who can defend and bang the boards. I'm not a huge Perkins fan, but the rest of their team is pretty great so he may be enough to push them into elite status. He's coming off of knee surgery and has an expiring contract, so it remains to be seen whether he's their long term solution at center.

 

Could be right about Kandi, but the Spurs gave Nesterovic 45 million after playing alongside KG.

Also, what makes you think Perkins is a good rebounder? Cause he's not.

 

They have similar production. Green is not a particularly efficient scorer. And I don't think anyone believes that Green is as much a defensive presence as Perkins (not that Perkins is a dominant one, or any such thing).

Of course, Perkins has knee concerns while Green doesn't. All in all, it seems like a pretty fair swap.

 

You can put Perkins on Dwight Howard for 30 minutes, not have to double team, and not get torched for 40 points. I'm not sure there are many other guys in the league that you can say that for. He can also rebound at will against Miami's front court, neutralize Carlos Boozer, and whoop whoever the Knicks have next to Amare up front. He's also the guy who guards Bynum when he's in and shoves Gasol around when Bynum sits. He's also the guy who would keep Blair and McDyess down while KG guards Duncan.

Shaq simply isn't that guy. Jermaine O'Neal probably won't be playing again this season. Troy Murphy or any other buy out guy can't do what Perk does. I have no clue what so ever what Danny Ainge was thinking with this deal. Neither do Garnett and Paul Pierce. At times, the Perk looks good because of the overall defense. Other times, the over all defense looks good because of Perk. He's much more than some 15 PER guy.

Additionally, the window is closing. The Celtics have this year and next year before its all over. Perkins was a big part of this group and the deal just does not compute.

 

I see what your saying agoo. PER definitely does not tell the whole story.

Ainge was thinking that he wouldn't be able to pay or resign Perk after this year, might as well get something for him now. And I guess that Shaq would do enough to fill in for him on the defensive side of things and that Green would be an upgrade offensively Plus the long term.

 

Teams make mistakes and he didn't finish his contract there.

Also, Perkins averages 8 rebounds in 26min a game. That's not a bad rate at all. Per 36 he would average 11.2 a game. Again, not bad at all and I would call it good.

 

There are many guys in the league you can say that for because Howard doesn't average anywhere around 40. How many 40 point games has he had this year?

 

Without a doubt. I think it was a fair trade. I think it feels each teams needs, but to act like it was robbery is not even close to the case.

 

What Perkins gives you on defense is usually negated on offense. You don't have to guard him so you allow the other team a free help defender in the lane.

 

Considering his size and the type of player he is, his numbers are terrible.

PS- nice 12 game sample size you're using there...

 

Do you have any numbers that back that up? I'd like to see them so maybe I could understand your position better.

 

It was a hyperbole...