Fuck this healthcare Reform...

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by OSUBlazerfan, Mar 21, 2010.

  1. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,295
    Likes Received:
    5,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  2. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,295
    Likes Received:
    5,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  3. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,007
    Likes Received:
    5,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired Yankee
    Location:
    Beautiful Central Oregon
    This is the way it should have been done:


    Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) offered another amendment to repeal the provision but paid for it by issuing new taxes on oil companies.

    He argued that lawmakers have to decide where money would be spent — not OMB. The Stabenow amendment, he said, would be “abandoning our role in appropriating spending.”

    “We cannot pass that buck and we should not,” Levin said.

    His amendment failed, 44-54.


    Business as usual, the spend-now/pay later far-right is once again in total control of our destiny.
     
  4. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,007
    Likes Received:
    5,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired Yankee
    Location:
    Beautiful Central Oregon
  5. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,295
    Likes Received:
    5,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    It's Congressional testimony. The meaning is quite clear: You can't count the same dollar twice.
     
  6. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,295
    Likes Received:
    5,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  7. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,070
    Likes Received:
    24,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    I won't vote for Romney if you won't.

    Well, actually I won't even if you do.

    barfo
     
  8. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,295
    Likes Received:
    5,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  9. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    8,309
    Likes Received:
    3,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Buy a recipe binder at CookbookPeople.com
    Location:
    Jolly Olde England
    More small businesses are offering health benefits to workers

     
  10. 3RA1N1AC

    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2008
    Messages:
    20,918
    Likes Received:
    5,168
    Trophy Points:
    113
    yeah romney is gonna get killed on that, if he dares to bring it up
     
  11. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,295
    Likes Received:
    5,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  12. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,976
    Likes Received:
    10,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    Clearly if those companies can afford health care for the employees, they must be making too much profit. Tax the hell out of them.
     
  13. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,295
    Likes Received:
    5,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  14. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,295
    Likes Received:
    5,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  15. 3RA1N1AC

    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2008
    Messages:
    20,918
    Likes Received:
    5,168
    Trophy Points:
    113
    let sick babies die, they deserve it, its not MY responsibility, if their parents wanted their children to live they would make more money.

    and where do these cancer patients get off? just shut up and die already, im not paying a fraction of a cent to help you receive medication, go to hell.
     
  16. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,295
    Likes Received:
    5,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    Ever heard of Medicaid? We have a government program to pay for health care for those that can't afford it themselves.

    Question: How much extra are you willing to pay to ensure that someone else doesn't have to pay for their own health insurance?

    Also, you do know that there are plenty of charities out there that cover health care expenses. Not everything has to be done through the government.
     
  17. 3RA1N1AC

    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2008
    Messages:
    20,918
    Likes Received:
    5,168
    Trophy Points:
    113
    america, love it or leave it!
     
    Last edited: May 31, 2011
  18. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,295
    Likes Received:
    5,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    I understand that you don't have an answer or even a cogent response to any question I ask, and that's okay.
     
  19. 3RA1N1AC

    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2008
    Messages:
    20,918
    Likes Received:
    5,168
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you understand nothing, people arent put on earth to answer every regurgitated hackjob rhetorical question posed by every bible thumping ditto head

    so you are saying EVERYONE who cant afford healthcare will receive it for free from medicaid?... :lol: what a joke

    its cool, I will save all the dying babies and cancer patients, you can keep your couple bucks lol, how very compassionate of you.
     
  20. Klinky

    Klinky Seal Of Approval

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    589
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Blazerland
    Umm, actually it sounds like these companies are getting a tax break to partly pay for the insurance.

    Let's say you just lost your job & found out you had cancer. Your income will be too high to qualify for Medicaid. COBRA premiums will cover you but at a cost of $500 - $1500(maybe more!) & that doesn't last forever. Once that ones out you are not going to get insurance from a private insurer. You might be able to get into a state run high risk pool, but not all states have them & they're not exactly cheap. Plus how are you going to pay for it now that you're out of a job? Perhaps your spouse has a job & they have their own insurance, but since yours was better & cheaper your family was covered under yours. Given out electing insurance coverage works, most likely your spouse won't be able to get your family covered under their insurance until re-electing their benefits later in the year.

    Tying health coverage to employment is a joke & only makes the deck of cards fall faster on people when they get seriously ill. I guess that's good motivation for them not to be lazy then & go get a damn job! Stop being so lazy, mooching cancer patients!

    As much as it takes to ensure everyone has at least catastrophic health insurance. We're already paying for it at the emergency rooms anyways, but much less efficiently. People get cancer, break a leg, need surgery, most people can't pay those out of pocket costs.

    For non-emergency/catastrophic, maybe focus more on building companies like ZoomCare & for the low-income give out vouchers they can use at clinics like this.
     
    Last edited: May 31, 2011

Share This Page