Canzano Reports (Hey stop laughing!) Nate being offered extension

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  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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  3. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    bleh. I think it would be best for all sides if we just moved our separate ways.
     
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    If the Blazers let Nate go without offering him, they would be viewed as crazy and inept, at least in terms of respect around the NBA. Whether or not Nate decides to stay, or if the offer is for both sides to save face before parting ways, would remain to be seen.
     
  5. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Get the fuck out of here! NO available coach could have got more from this injury ridden roster over the past 3 years then Nate did. SHow some respect!
     
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    I love McMillan but I can't stop thinking if the "grass is always greenier" when thinking of getting a new coach who would use wallace correctly (although its to early to say McMillan hasn't or won't ) and bring batum and the rest of the team back to being a great defensive team.

    With that being said I do think McMillan is the best coach we could get and ill be glad to have him back next year.
     
  7. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    It still remains to be seen whether he can actually take a healthy, relatively full roster anywhere. He's pulling another Dre with Gerald. Annoying shit likethat has happened way too often during his time here. (Magloire over LA, Webster over Nic, Blake over Dre, and now Nic over Gerald, etc, etc).

    He can make a talent-less team into a .500+ team. That's good, but unless we plan to remain injured for the near future, I want us to go in a different direction. It's not about disrespect.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Please give me a list of replacements so we can analyze the options together.
     
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    Wallace is a role player who was asked to be a franchise player in Charlotte. It's more about Wallace finding his role in Portland, IMO, and if he is willing to adjust to becoming a defensive and rebounding machine who scores outside of the offense.

    Gerald had it his way in Charlotte for years, and the results were terrible for his team, at least by my standards.
     
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    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    Remember that LA was wounded to start the year and it took him a while to get in shape - I do not think the Magloire over LA was that big of a deal.

    Webster over Nic also made sense given what we saw of Nic in summer league.

    Blake over Dre was with the idea that Blake matched a healthy Roy better than Dre - and the idea was to provide spacing for the first unit and a leader for the bench unit. A good idea, generally, unfortunately, Blake never performed because of the pressure of having Dre behind him and Dre did not like coming of the bench. From a basketball perspective - it still made tons of sense.

    It also makes sense to have shooters around LA and play in-out, I would seriously think about moving Camby to the bench (hist minutes are limited anyway) and playing Wallace at the 4 next to Nic - it's really Camby over Wallace, not Nic over Wallace, imho.
     
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    Guy misses 3 months of the season or so due to injury, and comes off the bench for 12 games. He's supposed to start him immediately upon return? When Webster was doing decent for us in that slot, getting 12 and 4, and shooting 39% from 3? Just because.....why? I didn't care for it, but Blake over Dre made sense. And at the end of last season/beginning of this season, before he turned it on, there were many on here, not just PapaG, complaining about Andre, and complaining about his fit with the roster etc. OMG! Nate tried to gear his team around his best player! How stupid! Gerald's been on the team for all of 4 games. Why not give him a chance to get acclimated to the roster and the offense and defense before flipping out about starting, and oh no, our guys are freezing him out on offense, etc. Your most talented 5 guys don't always have to be the 5 guys who start for you.
     
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    Agreed. I am excited for Wallace. We need ot find ways to utilize him, just as he needs to find ways to fit in. I'm not firing my coach because of a 4 game stretch with a guy. That's dumb.
     
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    I'd rather roll the dice on my hunch that much of the injury woes are due to Nate's way of doing things.
     
  14. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Although I agree that Wallace's role in Portland will be significantly different then his role in Charlotte, role players who are asked to become "faces" of franchises don't tend to make all defensive teams.
     
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    Mike Budenholzer. He's Gregg Popovich's right hand man.

    FWIW, I never liked Nate and was always up for a change. But I've come around on Nate. He's done well with the roster he was given. The offense seems better this season with a lot more ball and player movement. I'm not sure if this is because of Roy's injury. When Roy was healthy, the iso offense was painful to watch. Now, the offense has more flow to it. I'm not sure if Nate was "pigeon-holed" with Roy as the team's star player to use the iso offense.

    And for a defensive-minded coach, our defense is sub-par. I'm not sure if this is a result of philosophy or personnel, but I would lean towards the former. The constant switching on screens is ridiculous. They need to either hedge or fight through the screens. Switching leaves the defense in scramble mode and playing on their heels.
     
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    Hold the fuck on.........you are now blaming our injuries to Nate's coaching style? This is the first time I have seen you post something on here.....If your previous posts were this wacked, I am sad to have missed them. Please back up this claim of yours.
     
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    There is no way we'd find a better coach and many teams would go after Nate. We'd be fools to let him go.

    I told you guys Kenny Vance was clueless when he reported that his sources say that Nate wont be back after this season.
     
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    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    Nate has earned an extension. I think he has done an amazing job this year. The offense has been more fluid. I think the new assistants have helped Nate tremendously. Are there times when the team has looked stagnant?...yes, but I think the team has played harder this year than prior years. I would rather put the team in the hands of Nate than who ever else might be available to coach the team.
     
  19. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I don't know how I feel anymore. When the team was on the verge of contending, I was firmly in the "fire Nate" camp, but now that the team is in a somewhat rebuilding mode, I think Nate is a good guy for that job. The only problem I see is that Nate has never been good at balancing a rotation. He's terrible at it. Ten man rotations don't work in the NBA. They never have. Someone is always pissed off. Most teams have a 9 man rotation, which they shorten to an eight man rotation in the playoffs. Our rotation is Miller, Matthews, Batum, Aldridge, Camby, Wallace, Rudy, Roy, and *sigh* Collins. In the playoffs we shouldn't see much of Patty, but hey.... you never know.
     
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    I didn't completely explain myself. I don't know if it was Wallace's goal to be a "franchise player" in Charlotte, and listening to his interviews since the trade, I hear nothing that tells me he is a selfish player. He was the best player on that team, and did what was needed for his team to be successful, relatively speaking. That said, he could be a monster role player if he is allowed to concentrate on defense and rebounding. Miller can find him for some cuts to get an easy bucket or two during the game. I'm thrilled with getting Wallace, and although the team needs to learn to play small, he is the type of role player that can help a team exceed expectations in the playoffs.
     

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