Donald Trump: I've got my birth certificate, where President Barack Obama's?

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  1. RR7

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    Nobody is saying it is not important. I think the Obama supporters are saying we have enough faith in our country's processes to understand that we wouldn't just let someone become president and then say, "Ok, now, let's see some ID". That seems a little ridiculous to me, that you could believe that they would allow him to run and be elected and serve without verifying he is actually eligible.
     
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    If the birthers haven't already thought of that they are even stupider than I thought. But I doubt it would succeed, because personal information is exempted from FOIA.

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    I'm comfortable that Obama met Constitutional requirements. The certificate of live birth from Hawaii is enough for me. Anyone who isn't comfortable that he does can petition the courts and if the Supreme Court eventually finds otherwise, then I'll agree with those who say he doesn't.
     
  4. Denny Crane

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    I've never heard of any govt. organization that vets candidates and approves them.

    Seems quite contrary to the constitution.

    The proper way to handle such things is to have someone sue and the supreme court ultimately decide.
     
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    IMO, they should provide it just to be a candidate for the Presidency, much less actually winning.
     
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    Faith in our government? To which country are you referring? :tsktsk:
     
  7. RR7

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    I said faith in the country's processes. Not the government. Meaning there's likely a process in place.
     
  8. SlyPokerDog

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    You may not have heard of the organization but I'm willing to bet that some agency or department checks out who might be in charge of the most powerful country on this planet. We can't afford what would happen if they didn't do that. I'm willing to bet that we take great care that the office of the president can not be compromised. Could you imagine if a foreign power found proof that Obama wasn't born here? They could blackmail the chit out of him. I just have a hard time believing that someone somewhere don't take serious steps to prevent this.
     
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    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread405486/pg1
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_the_President_need_a_background_check
    http://caffinequeen.wordpress.com/2...ugh-background-checks-prior-to-taking-office/
     
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    You can't have a govt. freely elected by the people if the govt. has the power to decide who's an eligible candidate or who's not. As the first link mentions, there's no constitutional requirement for some organization to accept the president's qualifications.

    As I already wrote, if there are doubts about a guy elected president, someone would sue and the courts would decide.
     
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    Isn't the judiciary one of the three branches of government?

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    Everything you linked is referring to background checks along the lines of an FBI background check, to look into past criminal behavior, links to shady characters, whatever.

    Do you think that a 12 year old would be allowed to run and win by just saying, yeah, I'm 35, refusing to show a birth certificate, and then we'd have to wait until someone brought forth a lawsuit for them to be taken out of office?
     
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    Late to the game..

    But no, no one was "attacking" Bush for being born in the US. So....
     
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    If he wasn't a citizen, he wouldn't have run.

    Serious question. Do people honestly think he wasn't born in Hawaii? Wouldn't it be really hard to cover up after all these years? For gods sake, we live in an age where politicians lied about far more important things and got exposed super easy.

    It just seems like an argument to argue about, just to have something to argue about, and cause doubt in peoples minds that he's not a "real American" and must be a muslim spy.

    Cause you know, 40 some odd years ago the Hawaiian paper was paid by someone who knew that many decades later some kid would become President and it was extremely important that the birth announcement was made in the paper.

    You know, to keep the rouse realistic!!!

    Good grief people, tune into sanity FM. What good would it have been for his mom to fake his "citizenship"? Did she ever revoke her own citizenship? What would he have benefited for all these years in lying about it?!

    If he's not a citizen, he's done a great job of faking it.

    Oh, I know, he's "ruining" the country (though you can only state vague accusations that really aren't solely his doing or even mostly done under his presidency OR actually what you state). he must be a secret muslim socialist commie.

    If he is one (esp for "keeping us in those wars"), then so is George W Bush, Bill Clinton, G Bush and Ronald Reagan.
     
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    They're the ones who decide cases like this. And AFTER THE FACT.

    The candidates are vetted by the press and the opposing candidates, which is how it should be.

    If some 12 year old claimed to be 35 and wouldn't produce identification during the campaign, the voters likely wouldn't vote for him.
     
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    I think it is a little naive to think there aren't some big fat files in Washington on everyone who ever ran for President. It's also a little naive to think that if there was some incredible smoking gun in those files, that it wouldn't be leaked.

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    I think you were born before your time. Most likely, Bush's missing duty in the National Guard and Obama's missing kindergarten records are near the last of their kind. In the future, we'll not only have their written records, we'll have video of them starting from just before birth and covering bedwetting, school, first sexual encounters, juvenile delinquency, etc. We'll know when they went to the mall and what they bought, because the cameras will have caught it all. First cigarette behind the school? On youtube. Cheating on college math test? On youtube. Masturbating to a self-portrait? On youtube.

    Will this improve the quality of our public servants? I think it won't.

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    Another Senator asks, "What's Obama hiding?"

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=283713#ixzz1Il6nelEV
     
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    Trump is 2nd in the latest new Hampshire polls, just a few points
    Behind Romney.

    Amazing.
     

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