The Final Word On Obama's Birth Certificate

Good Lord, I'm becoming a Birther.

 

First thing I check in a search engine says that NORC had to leak the real results that Gore won.

http://makethemaccountable.com/coverup/FollowUp.htm

Regardless of who won in Florida, Gore had the majority of votes nationwide, and the people's will was stymied.

 

http://www.norc.org/projects/ByClient/Tribune Publishing/

 

It's fucked up, isn't it? First, I dismissed it, telling myself it's too crazy to be true. Then you realize the questions aren't unreasonable. After that, you wonder why these simple questions aren't being answered. I'm no conspriacy theorist, but they're trying too hard to obsfucate the issue and smear the opposition for something to NOT be there.

I hope it's much ado about nothing, because if it isn't, then it's a Constitutional crisis like we haven't seen since Watergate. And I care a hell of a lot more about our country than I do about some sub-par, one-term president. He can be flushed in 2012; if it turns out he wasn't eligible for election, trust in the system is lost.

 

Any results on that site?

I already read others write about it. The results are for Gore unless you make rules to leave out various types of ballots which clearly intended to vote for Gore. Naturally, the mainstream media reported results based upon the pro-Bush assumptions without reporting the assumptions.

My point is that when Democrats question an election, we're told to be quiet because we're hurting the country's unity, being divisive, being unpatriotic, etc. It gets a couple days of articles and is then forgotten. Later the media trumps up Republican petty complaints the whole 8 years they're out of office.

 

LOL.

 

LOL is the answer to you birthers from the vast majority of Americans. You do realize most consider this a joke, right? And that we're just humoring you Fox types?

 

Read dorkbro's post. I don't know how accurate it is, but it gives a good idea as to how assumptions (which ballots to include and which to exclude) can change the outcome.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-72380.html

 

A conspiracy decades in the making, by people who realized that this Kenyan newborn would one day, forty plus years later, be challenging for President of the US and therefore needed his tracks covered from Day 1.

Yup, cold, sober rationality right there. I can see why you protest being lumped in with Truthers. It's very plausible.

 

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I think he was born here, but like the old Russian proverb says, "Trust, but verify". You keep spinning your meme, though; demanding ignorance seems to be working for you.

 

It's like you didn't even read my reply to basically this same post yesterday. I think he was born in Hawaii. There is something else on it that he doesn't want to be made public.

That's the most logical assumption, IMO. If not, why not just release the damn thing?

 

You suspect that he may not be, thus "the greatest constitutional crisis in history" rhetoric. Plus, you said before you took offense to your birtherism being compared to trutherism.

 

Because it moves his opponents to focus on the dumb stuff instead of the important stuff - the economy and the growing deficit. Duh.

 

It's like you didn't read who that post you quoted was directed to. (Hint: Not you.)

 

I don't know. Do you know for sure? My point is that it's a question easily answered, so it should be.

 

It doesn't seem like it's kept people that oppose his policies from focusing on the economy and the growing deficit. His proponents aren't focusing on those issues, however. Shouldn't they?

 

Literally nothing is knowable, outside of mathematics. All we have is levels of sure-ity. Based on his having produced a legally recognized form of birth certificate, the announcement in local newspaper of his birth and things like that, I am quite sure he was born in Hawaii.

If you're willing to believe it's possible that fake birth announcements were created for a Kenyan newborn, how would you know that the state of Hawaii didn't create a fake birth certificate on his behalf?