Crazy suggestion: Start Brandon Roy

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  1. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Like most players, Roy is more effective when he's The Man and everyone defers to him. Now that he's the one having second thoughts before each shot, his percentage goes down.
     
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    Amen. I respect Roy for his past accomplishments, but I'm getting sick of his denial in terms of his body not being this issue and it's all "mental." I've seen him rim checked too many times on easy buckets to believe it's anything other than his bum knees. We simply can't expect to get much better with a bench player like him killing our cap.
     
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    This is the only part of your post I agree with.

    I was hoping that Roy had something left for the playoffs, and that he was going to take it up a level, but he just can't. He's completely done, as far as I can tell.
     
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    He looked horrible....

    Routinely abused on defense and provided nothing on offense, he did have 1 nice dish, but other than that was a waste out there....and why Nate kept him out there instead of going back to Matthews or Rudy, either would have been better in the 4th quarter.

    and then today you have Canzano of all people defending Roy, and having to read Roy say that it is all mental? Really?..REALLY??????

    This is a guy who averaged over 20ppg, was an All-Star nearly unstoppable 1v1 and now he is stating that the reason he can't score is because he is unsure of his role?

    BULLSHIT...

    He keeps saying his knees are fine, and it very well may be that they don't HURT anymore per se but he certainly has been robbed of any explosiveness or even a shred of lateral quickness that he had, and apparently he can't even hit an open jumpshot anymore?

    The bottom line is he has lost considerable athleticism as a result of his knees and he is STILL struggling with his ego of what he once was but will NEVER again be.

    Nate needs to go to a 7 man rotation, put Roy in for a run in the 2nd quarter and if he doesn't show any spark then send him back to the bench and leave him there....the team is much better off having Batum\Matthews or even Rudy out there.
     
  5. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    The cansucko piece on Roy really touched me. It's sad that fans have packed it in on him so easily. Regardless if Roy is done or not; it's just sad that some fans wish he was dead or he should be gone. Amazing really.

    I'm waiting for him to have one of those epic games. When that happens; I won't mind welcoming back a lot of those fickle fans that gave up on him so early.
     
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    Wishing him dead is absolutely stupid, he is a basketball player for goodness sakes not the devil. But clearly this is Canzano's way of over-sensationalizing the situation (Roy's condition) to make his point and strike a chord with Blazer fans.

    You look at what POR owes Roy and then watch him on the floor and listen to his excuses for his play off the floor and there shouldn't be any doubt that if the Blazers can dump him and his contract they need to do so as soon as possible. He will never live up or come close to earning the amount that is owed to him.
     
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    How can I fucking argue with you; when you have the hot ass chic as your avatar?!?!?! Complete distraction!!!!!

    I am not making excuses, nor do I think anyone else should either. BUT... The dude is only 2.5 months past surgery. Realistically, not too many players in the league would even come back and play. For that, I really commend him. He doesn't want to give up, nor should us fans.
     
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    Dead is way to extreme. Never in a million years would I wish death on anyone, let alone a great guy and someone who carried our team to be relevant again before his injuries. However, gone is something I would agree with because it is painfully obvious he is not an NBA player anymore and really, it is thinking about him and his future. Everything I have heard is if he keeps playing he can really risk even more pain/injuries as he gets older. I really feel like we should retire his jersey, but at this point, we have to cut or losses, if he is non-existent on offense and we know he will keep getting burned on defense, what does he bring?
     
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    I will say this over and over again. Keep in mind that he had two surgeries on both his knees only 3.5 months ago. There aren't too many players that would even come back in the same season like Roy. Him even being on the floor is an anomaly. Sorry but I am not in the popular opinion as everyone else that thinks Roy is done. Maybe he's done this season, but I think the kid has a lot of great games left in his tank.

    But hey, everyone wants him gone, then so be it. He will just go on another team and torch us for 20+ every game. Why not?!?! Stick it to us fans that was willing to throw him out at the first sign of trouble.
     
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    You're making it sound like Roy just had ACL surgery or micro-fracture and was fine before that. 2.5 months ago he had a minor scope of both knees cleaning them out, there is not an extended recovery period for that procedure. If there was a more major surgery to fix his knees he would have done that but multiple surgeons have said there’s nothing they can do about his knees, they are forever damaged. The final meniscus removal he had with the rush back for last years playoffs were the final straw that broke his knees. If he can fill in for spot minutes off the bench that’s fine, but we shouldn’t play him minutes out of loyalty and potentially sacrifice playoff wins just because he was a better player years ago.
     
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    Give me one player that has come back after having those two minor surgeries you just talked about?
     
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    Really??? You're going to wait a long, long time, my friend.
     
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    The thing is, it's possible to "come back" but the point of contention is to what level Roy will be able to achieve. Will he ever be the Roy we knew, or is the current Roy the best it will ever be?
     
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    I think somewhere in between. Possibly a player that works this off-season on a game fitted to his condition. Like I mentioned on the other thread, Roy worked last offseason on a game fit with the "old roy". I suspect he will work on a game that caters to his ability now.
     
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    I'm patient... ;)
     
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    I don't think him starting is really going to help him much and it will hurt the one guy on the team who shoots an above average percentage from the 3-point line (Wes).

    I thinking wishing B-Roy was dead is fucking insane.
    If you feel that way, please feel free to stop watching the Blazers.


    I don't actually begrudge B-Roy the money.
    He took this team out of a death spiral and made them respectable again.

    However, I do wish there was a way to keep his salary from counting against Portland's salary cap.
     
  17. PtldPlatypus

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    Canzano was just on 95.5 with John Lund, says he had a chat with Roy. Again, it's Canzano, so filter the commentary however you will:
    • Roy thanked Canzano for the article about him
    • Roy says his issues are ALL mental; feels no physical problems
    • Says Roy has been unsure of his post-injury role on the team up to this point
    • Says "something seemed to have clicked" with Roy after game 1, believes he will be very aggressive tonight
    IF Roy actually is able to score, then I will welcome some aggressiveness from him. I'm curious to see if Canzano's inferences hold true. If he can effectively embrace the "off-the-bench-scorer" role, then we will be VERY dangerous going forward
     
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    Just words right now. Hopefully action speaks louder than them. I will cheer him on and hope he puts his money where his mouth is. If he can do this, then Dallas is in some serious trouble.
     
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    Roy's first possession of Game 1, as I recall, was a nice hard drive left-step back for a score. He wasn't all athleticism, even in his prime...he was also crafty and had nice body control. If he can generate some baskets through guile, like Andre Miller does at times, he'll be a useful reserve. He really needs to pick his spots, though.
     

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