It's not their move, it's my move. Everyone says it's their move. I think it's (mine)

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Look at the money Kwame Brown has made in his career. GO knows he'll get paid regardless.

 

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Kwame never made 10 million in one year, let alone 4.

 

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Kwame Brown--arguably one of the suckiest players who has ever sucked--has made $51,477,908 in his career. Greg Oden has shown he can play; that's the difference.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brownkw01.html

 

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I could see some crappy team giving Greg an enormous offer, like MAX contract 5 year $95mil deal. Would we match that? A few months ago I was pissed about him having to have another surgery and would have said no; but looking at it now I think we would probably have to bite the bullet and match that type of toxic offer. His damn potential is still too high. I value Oden over everybody except LaMarcus on this team and wouldn't want to lose him even if we had to overpay.

 

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There is a lot of hypothetical hostility in this thread over something that hasn't happened. Patience.

 

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"Patience...there will be plenty of time for fury later!"

 

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It's the offseason and I'm a little freaked about our future.

 

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Well, we are FANatics

 

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Yeah, as you know I'm not feeling real warm and fuzzy about it either. I'm trying.

 

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Okay, so what happens if he actually leaves and takes less money? Kinda blows your analogy right out of the water. Basically that's what would happen. I have no doubt Allen will match anything, maybe even pay more to keep Oden. So what if he leaves in that scenario? It won't be about money.

 

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I'm freaked out as well. I want to see Oden dammit! I don't want to see him playing for another team.

 

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+1. I would rather see us gamble on a what if then not gamble and see greg win titles somewhere else.

 

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Link?

The Blazers could have offered a max extension. They did not. They held all of the cards on offering an extension, and they didn't do it.

 

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I'd assume that he put his own "company" in the best position for it to succeed, regardless

I find the thought that Oden owes the Blazers anything at all irrelevant, at least in terms of the business world. He has been paid a lot of money by Portland, but he didn't choose to be in Portland in the first place. Portland chose him, and that leverage that Portland has or had doesn't matter once the original contract expires, if Oden accepts the Q.O., which was a part of the owner/player approved CBA.

 

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The way I see it, both sides are posturing a bit and trying to gain an advantage in the negotiations. The Blazers don't want to lose Greg and are willing to pay him, but they want the deal to be as low risk as possible. Greg certainly wants the best deal with the most money and security. I suppose that it's possible that he just really wants out of town, but that doesn't seem to track with some of his statements at the end of the year. I still think that the most likely outcome is that there's a multi-year deal signed between the Blazers and Greg before June 30th.

 

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You defend Andre Miller, who left Philly for the highest bidder (Portland), to the extreme. This is Miller's 5th team in 12 years. Seems a bit inconsistent for you to cheer for a guy who is an NBA vagabond over a player who has had no choice where to play in the NBA.

 

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Yeah, that's pretty much what I posted earlier, and I agree. But then again, the signs may be there that Oden may want out...

 

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What's so untrue about that statement? If both sides agree that they aren't close on the dollars of a new deal and the employer choses to walk away from the table it's exactly the same as saying, "hey if you think you are worth it on the open market and want to take the risk, then that's your right Greg."

Well we don't know what kind of money Greg is going to command on the open market, but speaking from personal experience sometimes a job is more than just about the money, sometimes it's about the quality of life and the level of satisfaction that exists in a given situation. Seen from that perspective, Portland has mostly been a downer for Greg; if he leaves and takes less or equal money it could be just as much about finding a fresh start with lower expectations -- a place where he can be a little more anonymous even -- then I don't think there's anything particularly personal being directed at Blazers fans, but it very well could be personal for him in trying to do what's best for him and his career.

If I were in his shoes, I'd probably want very badly to get to just about anywhere else and start fresh, maybe that's not how he feels, but if he does stay it shouldn't be for some misplaced sense of owing the team or its fans anything it should be because he thinks this is the best place to make his career work. Whatever he eventually decides to do I think can live with the result.

 

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http://sportstwo.com/threads/186371...-it-s-(mine)?p=2606912&viewfull=1#post2606912

Worlds' collide.

 

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Here's Jason Quick's column from October where he gives both sides position on why there were never serious negotiations for an extension:

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2010/10/trail_trail_blazers_and_greg_o.html