Two Muslims pulled off plane due to passengers feeling "uncomfortable"

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  1. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I've presented my solutions. I can't help it if you don't like them. Like I said, you're doing the easy part (collecting data) without doing the hard part (ignoring the data noise and coming up with solutions). Better graduate programs won't let you get away with only doing the easy part.
     
  2. TradeNurkicNow

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    What solutions? Speaking out? Rooting out extremist elements of Islam? "Reform?" Those, my friend, are idealistic and very vague ideas. If this were about basketball, I'd say "Learn the game, then post."
     
  3. bluefrog

    bluefrog Go Blazers, GO!

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    There is a vocal Arab majority praising the death of Bin Laden too.

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  4. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Examples of what? :dunno:

    Is it seriously your belief that the popularity of lunch counters died out because white people couldn't keep black people from eating there?

    I think the proliferation of fast food chain expansions at that time simply changed our lunch culture.

    I remember eating at the Woolworth's lunch counter every August in the mid-60's with my Mom when we bussed into Portland to shop for school clothes. It made little sense to me when they started picketing the store because the stores in the south would not allow blacks. Here I had been lunching with blacks at their counter for several years. The problem was clearly not the store since there was no problem in Portland. The problem was the ignorant people who frequented stores in the south.
     
  5. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    It's specific enough. One doesn't need to create an exact plan to set a long-term action in motion. It would be akin to saying that you need to pick the exact battlefields to defeat Hitler before you enter the war. Instead, you start a broad campaign with an overarching message and then adapt as the specific circumstances come along. As they say, no battle plan survives first contact with the enemy. Your problem is you're confusing strategy and tactics.
     
  6. maxiep

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    I disagree with your terms "vocal" and "majority". There is one muslim country that has offered its congratulations: Saudi Arabia. The others have remained silent. Why? In this Arab Spring, the governments are afraid of enraging their streets even more.
     
  7. MARIS61

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    Ironically, or not, nearly everyone involved in the 9/11 plot was from Saudi Arabia.
     
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    Sounds like paranoia.

    What's the big deal?

    [video=youtube;t2fpDaxq9rA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2fpDaxq9rA[/video]
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight
     
  10. PapaG

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    Reminds me a lot of the imams in Minneapolis years ago.

    Dress in traditional Arab garb, deliberately act suspicious on a flight, and you're going to get removed. Had a bunch of Evangelical rednecks wearing overalls and trucker hats used airplanes as bombs in 2001, and had numerous other acts of terrorism against Western and democratic targets attached to their lifestyle, the same would apply to them.

    The imams should blame the terrorists within their own religion for making them social outcasts, IMO, instead of provoking innocent civilians into making them the victim, and then running to the media crying about it.
     
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    Why? So you could prove that you're also a bigot? Except in the case of the Mormon gentlemen, there is no history of people reading the Book of Mormon, or affiliated with the Mormon, attacking Western targets with acts of terrorism, let alone by using an airplane.

    So, not only would you be a bigot, but you wouldn't even a have an excuse (flimsy as it may be) for your bigotry.

    In fact, reading your post, I can only assume that you're are a bigot, since obviously you singled out somebody for reading the book of Mormon. That you didn't act on your impulse doesn't make you any less of a bigot than those who had the imams removed for acting suspiciously.
     
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    Who isn't uncomfortable on planes?

    Seriously. Can't say "gay" or be Muslim in Tennessee. Good old First Amendment!
     
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    Uhm, I'm sorry, how were they "deliberately acting suspicious"?
     
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    They had shifty eyes.

    [video=youtube;T55ArHjeR1c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T55ArHjeR1c[/video]
     
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    shit, I would have wanted them off the plane too, then. Damn shifty eyes.
     
  17. Denny Crane

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    This is America, dammit. We're supposed to be free to dress and worship as we choose. How a person dresses or if they appear Muslim is irrelevant.
     
  18. TradeNurkicNow

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    Just keep talking, you might just dig yourself out of that stupid-hole you dug yourself.
     
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    I agree.

    I think that some level of prejudice is natural and unavoidable, but in a situation like on a plane--where everyone has gone through a security check, etc.--there's no excuse for anyone to be discriminated against.

    If the pilot is the one that refused to do his job based on the attire of some passengers, I hope that he is fired.

    Ed O.
     
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    Denny Crane and Ed O swoop in as the voices of reason.
     

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