Would you trade BRoy if there were a taker?

I love BRoy, but would trade him in an instant. He doesn't fit with the rest of our team and they tend to defer to him, though he will never again be consistently an all-star level shooting guard. I would love to get Brand for him or another serviceable big, but doubt we could. It's very likely that he's gone with the new amnesty provision in the next CBA...

 

If you're going with the logic that Portland can package a late 1st rounder in a pathetic draft with Roy for an expiring, you might as well hope to get Jason Kidd + Brendan Haywood back to match dollars. I say might as well because both scenarios have about an equal chance of happening.... none.

Brandon isn't going anywhere for at least a couple more seasons unless you're taking back an equally toxic contract

STOMP

 

We better hope for one of two things:

1.) There is a clause in the new CBA that allows a team to have a one time deal where a player's salary no longer counts against the cap.
2.) B-Roy comes back at 85% of what he was two years ago and plays every game next season.


The team will not trade the guy no matter what happens.

 

I'd dump him, but only because of his salary. I just don't think he'll ever be a max contract player again, so we're paying double what the guy is probably worth.

 

Roy for Ray Allen. Get it done, Cho.

 

BRoy means to much to this organization to trade him. He helped bring an organization that had one of the worst raps in the NBA to being a model franchise (well a model of how to get knee injuries). I do not know if Cho could convince Paul Allen to trade such an important part of the last few years for scraps. Cho would probably pull the trigger on anything but the real question is if Allen would let him. Like it or not BRoy is the face of the franchise and I think he will be here for a few years just because of what he his presence means to the organization regardless if he has knees or not.
Waiving him if we get an amnesty clause is completely different and I figure we would waive him if we got one.

 

I think there is a chance for both. Maybe not all 82 games for Roy, (That is rare for most) but 85% of what he was. Which still means he can hit a pull up jumper unlike most players.

As for the new CBA I think they almost have to make that rule. If they want to lower the Cap for every team and make it hard for it to escalate, then they have to start with the newer contracts and create grandfather clauses for the old ones. They will have to ease it in or they will not get support from the players or owners who don't want to lose their stars.

Roy's contract is hardly the big issue for the Blazers in the off season.

 

Business is business. BRoy, is done. For him, I hope this is not the case and that he can somehow resolve his knee issues and make a successful return. But with both Roy and Oden with problems - how can the team move ahead without moving one or both? It is not pragmatic. Not good business.

Sometimes you must cut your losses. I truly believe that the team should cut their losses with both Roy and Oden. Move on. Move forward. Free up cap space and rebuild. It is the only direction that makes good business sense.

If this is accomplished, within three years we'll be back in the playoffs with a good, young team and with any luck - and we need luck! - we build another winner.

If this is not done (moving Roy and Oden) it is much like playing this weekend's PowerBall and buying 100 million tickets in attempts to win. There is a strong likelihood - even after buying 100 million tickets, that you would not win the jackpot.

Let other teams roll the dice on Roy and Oden. Perhaps they win the lottery by doing so? But this team can no longer waste money and cap space on a hope and 100 million lottery tickets.

 

Yea my brain works weird. Cutting him saves a lot of money now and you could turn it into good publicity while trading Roy, especially for another bad contract or pretty much nothing, would get a lot of bad rep no matter how you look at it.

 

I utterly fail to see the difference between waiving him and trading him from a PR standpoint. People that would be upset would be that way because he's gone, not how he was gotten rid of.

 

I just see people being able to swallow the "we waived him to save money" pill, easier then "we traded Roy for this horrible player because it was all we could get for him" pill.

 

Maybe I'm projecting a little bit here, but somehow I get the feeling that most fans don't really look at the dollars and cents part of roster management. Creating cap room by waiving him with an amnesty clause certainly makes more sense to me than trading him for another bad contract, but on the other hand I don't much care if Roy stays or goes. If people are upset with Roy's departure I'm assuming it would be mostly about some kind of emotional attachment to Roy the player rather than some "bean counter" issue.

 

agreed... #2 would require a major medical breakthrough/miracle. I'm much more hopeful about #1

of course most likely neither happens. I fear occational spikes of offense counterbalancing overall meh play and no D keeping the team from finding a new identity. Unfortunately I expect more whining to the media about not knowing his role. It would be great if he would accept his fate as a peripheral player rather then the man or even hopes of being Robin to LA's Batman. About the smoothest way to transition away from that drama would be to have Greg or another player really step up and command the focus.

STOMP

 

This team is treading water at best as long as they continue to live in denial.

If The Choad values his job he needs to move Roy, and probably Oden, this summer.

 

So you are suggesting we cut Oden to create cap space for what? Or do you think we can trade him for a top draft pick? Funny.

Same with Roy. You know we won't get shit in a trade, so you want to basically trade him for an expiring contract. News flash, we won't get top free agents. So go ahead and gamble with the NBA lottery, because cap space is worthless in terms of getting someone who will bring a championship. Role players are the only thing you will get. We have plenty of those.

 

This.

Why is the team worse today than it was 2 years ago? Most folks would say that "injuries" was the excuse. Time to remove that excuse.

 

Exactly! Roy will only be a role player - and one that actually hurts us than helps us (need me to elaborate?) and Oden....don't even remember him being a "role player" to date!

I don't care if we don't get anything in return - if we can move Roy and Oden, free up cap space, we can at least get bodies! And if we can get only draft picks - so be it.

What is funny (not) is hanging on to Roy and Oden.