No Roy Amnesty and Oden will be a Blazer

Is there really a true limit though? We've been witnessed to Allen paying over 120 mil per year (including lux tax) on that early 2000 team. Not saying it's smart, but Allen has proven he will spend over the top money to win.

 

Now that I'm fairly certain I'm at the circus instead of a following a real sports franchise, all I can reasonably hope for is wild-ass, crazy moves that shock and wow me. Keeping Roy and maxing out Oden makes perfect sense seen that way.

 

There's no team option in his contract. 2014-15 is an Early Termination Option (which is at Roy's discretion).

I assume you're looking at Hoopshype's salary page. First of all, if they're accurate, why do they have Roy's contract set at the 2009-10 maximum level and not the 2010-11 maximum level? Where's Ryan Gomes buyout amount? Where are the likely incentives for Aldridge and Camby that count against the cap?

Second of all, a team option (except in the case of Rookie scale contracts) must be in the last year of the contract. To report that there's a team option in the 2nd to last year just shows that you don't really understand the CBA. It's in Article XII, Section 1. (ii): "authorizes the extension of such Contract for no more than one (1) year beyond the stated term;"

BTW, my comments at BlazersEdge were not meant to say, "Portland needs to keep Roy", they were meant to say, "Waiving him might not be as cut and dry as some are making it out to be."

 

That is a bunch of fucking bullshit....

Roy had one fantastic game, one mediocre game and 4 horrible ones.....

Matthews was off\on on offense, but he worked hard on defense....Roy is a complete liability on defense....

I agree the team needs a few more players who can create offense, but even Roy can no longer do that consistently, hell even every other game, more like 1 every 3 or 4 games...and that is the crux of the problem with paying him MAX level money...

 

Oops, my mistake. Third Year is "Player Option" and the 4th Year is "Team Option"

 

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/portland.htm It says here that the last year of his contract is a "Team Option"

 

They are wrong.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4379864

"Agent Bob Myers confirmed to The Associated Press late Wednesday night that Roy agreed in principle to a contract at the NBA maximum salary. The fifth year is at Roy's option. "

 

Well then... I stand corrected. I was basing my opinion on hoopshype.

 

+1. I thought it showed zero negotiating skills on Cho's part..just a "wait and see" attitude. Really fucking stupid.

 

Interesting that they would be wrong for 2 years without anyone correcting them.

 

I do to.

 

You could be right too. I'm just thinking Allen has been pretty loyal to his players, moreso than the management. Regardless, we will soon find out what the true motive behind it is soon enough. It's clear Allen had an agenda, so let's see where it leads us.

 

If an amnesty is one of the options to come out of the next CBA, I think the team would be absolutely moronic if they choose not to waive Roy. If they keep him, they stand to be hobbled not just with his contract, but with his inability to accept that he is no longer the player he once was.

 

This is the real issue for me. If they keep him I don't see him being able to easily accept a lesser role, which means we'll be saddled with trying to squeeze him into the lineup instead of trying to find or groom somebody else. I'm not saying it's going to be easy to replace what he used to be, but keeping a continually diminishing Roy isn't fair to the rest of his healthy teammates and frankly I think it will continue to stunt LMA, because as we saw in the playoffs Roy doesn't really look for him except on pick and pops and that's not how I want to see our real franchise player used.

 

The guy came off of the bench after his surgery. How many other 3-time All-NBA and All-Star players in the NBA would do that without having a meltdown? Plus, he clearly outplayed his replacement in the playoffs.

Why are so many posters convinced that Roy can't face some reality? He already gave up his starting spot to an average player, and handled it very well, IMO. It wasn't until Nate sat him in the playoffs that he finally let go of his frustrations, and the next two games after that were outstanding. He didn't say anything about starting until after the season, and the people bashing him for it are some of the same posters who advocated an open tryout at the PG position when Miller was brought in to back up BLANKY. If Roy beats out Matthews, he should start. Why that is even an issue makes no sense.

Without Roy, the Blazers would have been swept. No doubt about it; he's the only player on the team that can create his own offense no matter who is defending him. Look at what Marion did to Durant last night in the 4th, and compare it to what Roy did to Marion in Game 4.

Don't hire Nate as GM, please.

 

I wish I could believe that - but I suspect the OP is correct. This team is going to unfurl their flags, sound the drums, and march right off a cliff.

 

I agree