and maxie, would you accept welfare to provide healthcare for you and your family? if you couldnt afford healthcare, would you have everyone else pay the bill for you? yes or no
I know you didn't ask this of me, but I'm going to comment anyway: exactly how is willingness to accept something relevant to one's belief about whether people are entitled to it? There are many things that I will accept when offered that I don't deserve and could do without. Unemployment benefits for 2 1/2 months when I was laid off, for example. But had they not been there, I would have found a way to get by.
No, clearly you don't get it ("it" being my position), and clearly you don't want to--a fact you have now made abundantly clear. I only engage in discussions with those who are intellectually honest about their participation therein. If you actually desire legitimate discourse on this topic, feel free to PM me and let me know, and we can continue. Otherwise, I'm done.
low premium, high deductible health plans, can range from 400-1000 dollars A MONTH for a family of 5 with deductibles of 1000-11000 dollars...not exactly chump change to millions of families living check to check...i actually wrote this all earlier today lol, reading is clutch
http://mychristiancare.org/medi-share-pricing-tool.aspx Through this company, coverage for my family with a $5000 deductible would cost $293/mo, or $236/mo if we're all healthy. A $10,000 deductible would be $123-$157/mo. I'm sure it's not the cheapest plan in the country, either.
thanks for the info, seems about right, but 10,000 dollars for a family living check to check? most likely more than half of the claims dont get paid out because of that reason, and thats why they can afford to set premiums so low
also that site only has 3 or more as an option, and is fairly generic. a family of 5 i would assume would cost more to insure than a family of 3?
Nope--no price difference between 3 or 13. And the point was, you gave a range of 400-1000/mo for high deductible plans; I easily found one for significantly less, and I'm sure there are others.
So if a young child gets cancer (which is not always terminal and can be treated and reversed), and the parents cant afford treatment, its pretty much tough luck? Well if everyone dies, at 1 or 100, if a lady gets pregnant and doesn't want to keep it, isn't it also of your belief then that the government should not be able to force her to keep it?
the first site i went to was the one i quoted, and while yours is considerably cheaper, i still maintain it is still too much for millions of families to afford
Yes. Except insofar as there are nongovernmental entities that will help. How many young children could the government feed for a year, rather than spending tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on one (perhaps terminal, perhaps not) young child? How many potholes could be fixed or rapists prosecuted? We can't afford to do everything. Ed O.
That's not health insurance. I'm not sure what it is but it sounds little strange. Medi-Share brings believers together to share each other’s healthcare costs. It’s a modern-day version of what the church started back in the book of Acts. Each month, your share is matched with another’s eligible medical bills. Christian Care Ministry facilitates the direct sharing of medical costs between participants and provides you with a secure online way to see who you are sharing with so you can pray for and encourage them. And when you have a medical incident your fellow believers have committed to sharing with and praying for you! It’s that simple! Medi-Share is more than healthcare. It's a community of like-minded believers who pray for each other, supported by an organization that provides health education and promotes biblical living. Experience the freedom and blessing that comes from knowing you are helping your brothers and sisters in Christ meet their medical costs as they do the same for you.
Using PtldPlatypus's numbers for a family, that puts the family insurance cost at $2832 / year. Let's assume that a "family" is 4 people. That brings the yearly total to $708 / person / year. Compare that to the proposed Obamacare costs and number insured. Using the last numbers I saw for the cost of Obamacare, and the number of people that would receive coverage, it comes out to $4500 / person / year. Catastrophic insurance ~ $708 / year. Obamacare ~ $4500 / year. Yeah, this thread title is pretty accurate.
