Romney and Health Care in Mass: Is it a problem?

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  1. Denny Crane

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    RomneyCare doesn't have death squads. He's good.
     
  2. barfo

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    It might not now, but it probably will by election day. Mormon flip-floppy death squads.

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    I think Romney has been pretty clear on Obamacare. He'll repeal it when it comes to his desk and his first act as President would be to grant a waiver to all 50 states for Obamacare. By November, if someone is in the ballot box and doesn't know where Romney stands on Obamacare, then they probably shouldn't be voting.
     
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    Doesn't so much matter where he stands, because he's not exactly reliable about standing in one place. He was for RomneyCare before he was against it.

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    This is all probably a moot point anyway. Home equity is at the lowest level in ages, unemployment is extremely high, the housing market is depressed, and our federal debt has ballooned to obscene proportions that threaten the very viability of the country. Not to mention the fact that some economists think we're in for even worse to come, i.e. a double-dip recession.

    Obama may be toast no matter who the Republican candidate is.
     
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    Seems like Pawlenty thinks there is some opportunity here:

    "President Obama said that he designed 'Obamacare' after 'Romneycare' and basically made it Obamneycare,"

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    Didn't you guys try that with, what's his name? Oh yeah, Bush. How did that work out for you?

    When will the GOP realize that you can't run the government like a business? They are two fundamentally different systems, with different objectives, motivators, and operations.

    Saying Romney is qualified because he was a successful businessman is as apropos as saying he was a world-class athlete. It really is not that relevant.
     
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    Who honestly thought Bush was going to be fiscally conservative and reduce the size of the federal government?

    Nice strawman.
     
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    Mitt Romney Haunted By Past Of Trying To Help Uninsured Sick People

    "Every day I am haunted by the fact that I gave impoverished Massachusetts citizens a chance to receive health care," Romney told reporters Wednesday, adding that he feels ashamed whenever he looks back at how he forged bipartisan support to help uninsured Americans afford medicine to cure their illnesses. "I'm only human, and I've made mistakes. None bigger, of course, than helping cancer patients receive chemotherapy treatments and making sure that those suffering from pediatric AIDS could obtain medications, but that's my cross to bear."

    "My hope is that Republican voters will one day forgive me for making it easier for sick people—especially low-income sick people—to go to the hospital and see a doctor," Romney added. "It was wrong, and I'm sorry."

    According to Romney, if he could do things over again, he would do everything he could to make certain that uninsured individuals got sicker and sicker until they died. Promising his days of trying to provide medical coverage to the gravely ill are behind him, Romney said that if elected president, he would never even think about increasing anyone's quality of life or trying to lower the infant mortality rate.

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    What do you think "compassionate conservatism" was? It was big government social conservatism. IMO, the worst of both worlds. And George W. Bush couldn't touch Romney's business acumen. I have a couple of friends of mine that worked for him at Bain Capital. The guy thinks on a completely different level. It's none of that Obama "Wow, he sounds so eloquent; he must be really smart" bullshit. The guy flat out produced.

    As for how you run a government, of course you can run it like a business. There are plenty of well run non-profits. Just like in the private sector, you seek out and eliminate redundancies, focus on not performing tasks but accomplishing goals, eliminate poor employees and reward good ones, sell off superfluous assets, invest in technology to disintermediate the value chain and enact true cost controls. The difference is that any "profit" (excess taxes) can go to pay down our debt.
     
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    You know, there was actually one president who shrunk the size of government - Clinton.

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    i think the bigger problem is his magical underwear, and that he believes that all christians are going to hell.
     
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    At some point long before we were fetuses, we were many forms of nutrition from a myriad of sources that our eventual parents ate.

    You could have killed me then simply by eating that apple my dad was reaching for.

    And get away with it.
     
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    At what point does something become a human life?
     
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    -George Bush Republican nomination acceptance speech, 2000

    -George Bush, November 2001
     
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    RomneyCare is going to kill Mitt in the GOP primaries, as it should. He admits it was a failure, but the problem is, the citizens of MA are still trying to pay for that mistake.
     
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    yeah, hes fucked
     
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    wait, so if it is so obvious, why did he say it? wouldnt the people who voted for bush be smart enough to tell the difference? :lol:
     

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