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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

    Published: July 23, 2011


    DID I mention that I’ve signed a pledge — just like those Republican congressmen who have signed written promises to different political enforcers not to raise taxes or permit same-sex marriage? My pledge is to never vote for anyone stupid enough to sign a pledge — thereby abdicating their governing responsibilities in a period of incredibly rapid change and financial stress. Sorry, I’ve signed it. Nothing more I can do.


    If this kind of idiocy by elected officials sends you into a hair-pulling rage and leaves you wishing that we had more options today than our two-party system is putting forward — for instance, a party that would have offered a grand bargain on the deficit two years ago, not on the eve of a Treasury default — not only are you not alone, but help may be on the way.


    Thanks to a quiet political start-up that is now ready to show its hand, a viable, centrist, third presidential ticket, elected by an Internet convention, is going to emerge in 2012. I know it sounds gimmicky — an Internet convention — but an impressive group of frustrated Democrats, Republicans and independents, called Americans Elect, is really serious, and they have thought out this process well. In a few days, Americans Elect will formally submit the 1.6 million signatures it has gathered to get on the presidential ballot in California as part of its unfolding national effort to get on the ballots of all 50 states for 2012.


    The goal of Americans Elect is to take a presidential nominating process now monopolized by the Republican and Democratic parties, which are beholden to their special interests, and blow it wide open — guaranteeing that a credible third choice, nominated independently, will not only be on the ballot in every state but be able to take part in every presidential debate and challenge both parties from the middle with the best ideas on how deal with the debt, education and jobs.


    “Our goal is to open up what has been an anticompetitive process to people in the middle who are unsatisfied with the choices of the two parties,” said Kahlil Byrd, the C.E.O. of Americans Elect, speaking from its swank offices, financed with some serious hedge-fund money, a stone’s throw from the White House.

    As the group explains on its Web site, www.americanselect.org: “Americans Elect is the first-ever open nominating process. We’re using the Internet to give every single voter — Democrat, Republican or independent — the power to nominate a presidential ticket in 2012. The people will choose the issues. The people will choose the candidates. And in a secure, online convention next June, the people will make history by putting their choice on the ballot in every state.”

    Here is how it will work, explains Elliot Ackerman, an Iraq war veteran with a Silver Star, who serves as the chief operating officer of Americans Elect, and whose father, Peter, a successful investor, has been a prime engine behind the group. First, anyone interested in becoming a delegate goes to the Americans Elect Web site and registers. As part of that process, you will be asked to fill in a questionnaire about your political priorities: education, foreign policy, the economy, etc. This enables Americans Elect to put you in contact with others who share your views so you can discuss them and organize together. Then you will be invited to draft a candidate or support one who has already been drafted and to contribute to the list of questions that anyone running on the Americans Elect platform will have to answer on the site.


    “The questions, the priorities, the nominations and the rules will all come from the community, not from two entrenched parties,” said Ackerman.


    Any presidential nominee must conform to all the Constitutional requirements, as well as be considered someone of similar stature to our previous presidents. That means no Lady Gaga allowed. Every candidate will have to post in words or video his or her answers to the platform questions produced by the Americans Elect delegates. In April 2012, the candidate pool will be reduced to six through three rounds of voting. The six, assuming they all want to run, will then have to name their running mates. The only rule is that a Democrat must run with a Republican or independent, and a Republican with a Democrat or independent.


    “Each presidential candidate has to pick a running mate outside of their party and reaching across the divide of politics,” said Ackerman. In June 2012, the online convention will choose who among the six will run as the Americans Elect candidate — automatically on the ballot in all 50 states. If President Obama wants to run with John Boehner on the Americans Elect platform that would be fine — provided they go through the process. (President Obama should dump the Democrats and run as an independent, which he is, at heart, anyway.)


    Write it down: Americans Elect. What Amazon.com did to books, what the blogosphere did to newspapers, what the iPod did to music, what
    drugstore.com did to pharmacies, Americans Elect plans to do to the two-party duopoly that has dominated American political life — remove the barriers to real competition, flatten the incumbents and let the people in. Watch out.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24friedman.html?_r=1
     
  2. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    If there was a way to get into a political process that involved getting your ideas to the public, rather than requiring you to shill for special interests while stumping for millions (billions?) of dollars to even be invited to a debate, I'd be much more likely to be involved. It just doesn't seem that leadership in the commercial world or military world are anything remotely similar to that in the DC/political world. And I don't know if that's sad, purposeful or just a byproduct of ignorance and apathy like mine. :dunno:
     
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    What do you think the Tea Party is?
     
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    Are you really that stupid?

    Dick Army.
     
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    The Tea Party doesn't represent middle America, they're an offshoot of the far right.
     
  6. bluefrog

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    They do represent middle America, geographically.

    The only leverage they possess is disruption and division. That is what makes them so influential. That is why there is a chasm forming in America between the two political parties.

    Thanks to the Tea Party "compromise" is now a bad word
     
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    I wouldn't say they are centrists, or that their views are the same as a majority of Americans.

    For example, the left has a good amount more support than the right on this debt ceiling issue, because the right has their hands tied with the tea party saying "No compromise".
     
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    We'll see how Americans Elect does. I'm all for a third party that truly addresses the countries needs rather than playing politics as usual.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Wow, do you not understand what the Tea Party is about. There is no leader, although there are certain individuals that claim to lead us. Dick Armey is one that makes that claim.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I'll now add you to the count of those who have no idea of what the Tea Party represents.
     
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    Are you a member of the Tea Party?
     
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    Looks like he has more in common with Tea Party members than he thought.
     
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    No, he's just pointing out that the tea party has no leadership. Lefties here need to try and be a bit more honest.
     
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    Who is pointing out tea party has no leadership?

    I was pointing out what SDP and Tea Party members have in common . . . they both have no idea of what the Tea Party represents. :D

    Not sure who lefties are that you are referring to, but I would say everyone discussing politics needs to try to be a lot more honest (lefties, righties, inies, outies, tea party people . . .)
     
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    I consider myself one. There's no membership, per se. I favor limited government, both in terms of my business and my bedroom.
     
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    We're the only ones who realize that we no longer can afford our government.
     
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    Oh, I give the populace a little more credit than that. I think people know we can't afford it, but don't care as long as they're getting their check.
     
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    Most tea partiers are not libertarians. They're coming from religion; they want to control our sex lives.
     

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