Boehner Dealt Bitter Defeat

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  1. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    A clear sign that your party is in trouble is when John McCain is considered one of the responsible ones.

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    I think you haven't been paying attention. Revenue increases of all types are, according to all reports in the last several days, off the table. They aren't part of the current democratic proposals. The dems have given in / compromised on that.

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  4. SlyPokerDog

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  5. barfo

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    Strong physical resemblance between William Shatner and Chris Christie according to images in this thread.

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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    FWIW, the Reid plan is the right framework. It is flawed because it doesn't cut enough, and because Reid claims cuts that may or may not happen (bring the troops home when he claims). Reid and Democrats need to come up with the right amount of real cuts, and THEN it'd be on republicans if it doesn't pass.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Ouch. Maureen Dowd pulls no punches.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/31/opinion/sunday/dowd-tempest-in-a-tea-party.html?_r=1


    Democratic lawmakers worry that the Tea Party freshmen have already “neutered” the president, as one told me. They fret that Obama is an inept negotiator. They worry that he should have been out in the country selling a concrete plan, rather than once more kowtowing to Republicans and, as with the stimulus plan, health care and Libya, leading from behind.

    As one Democratic senator complained: “The president veers between talking like a peevish professor and a scolding parent.” (Not to mention a jilted lover.) Another moaned: “We are watching him turn into Jimmy Carter right before our eyes.”

    Obama’s “We must lift ourselves to a higher place” trope doesn’t work on this rough crowd. If somebody at dinner is about to kill you, you don’t worry about his table manners.
     
  9. BLAZER PROPHET

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    I was thinking troll.
     
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    Well, for all his dash and charm when speaking, he has proven to be an inept leader and equally inept negotiator. Leadership & negotiating are two of his lesser qualities.
     
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    Good thing his job doesn't require those traits.
     
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    Because ordering a military attack on foreign soil to finally get bin Laden doesn't take leadership . . .
     
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    Today 8:36 PM 'Significant Progress'
    The AP reports:

    WASHINGTON – Officials say the White House and Republican leaders in Congress are making significant progress toward a last-minute agreement to avoid a default threatened for next week.

    These officials say the two sides are discussing a plan to raise the debt limit by about $2.4 trillion and enact spending cuts of a slightly larger amount in two stages.

    The deal under discussion would also require Congress to vote on a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution, but not require its approval.

    The officials spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the discussions.
     
  14. jlprk

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  15. BLAZER PROPHET

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    It's sort of worthless responding to this "barfoism", but out of respect I'll bite and give the obligatory answer- every President has to execute leadership. Every President makes some good decisions during their time- it's inevitable. But, in general, Obama has failed as a leader and negotiator. But so did Bush & Clinton.
     
  16. BLAZER PROPHET

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    Good news.
     
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    Yeah, Boehner has had his hands full with the more radical Republicans. They have adopted a pretty staunch line. On the other hand, they ran on a specific platform and I think feel their election created a mandate for them.
     
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    Hate to waste your time with worthless responding, but when someone makes a worthless general statement like he X is inept leader when he has in fact demonstrated leadership qualities I felt the need to respond (lol at saying every president is bound to make a good decision . . . like Obama got lucky . . . he only made the call to atttack in pakistan and got the most wanted man alive after almost a decade hunt . . . but inevitable he will make that kind of decision and doesn't show any leadership)

    We will see if American agrees that Obama is an inept leader, I'm guessing not.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    If you're referring to whether or not he gets reelected (I can't tell if you are or not), leadership has nothing to do with it. I mean, Clinton & Bush got reelected and I anticipate Obama probably will to.
     

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